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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jodyjohnson" data-source="post: 6817168" data-attributes="member: 5590">Are you saying a BattleMaster 4 (for attack granting, and THP)/ Mastermind 3 (for ranged Help) with the Healer feat (for non-magical Hit Point recovery - even from Unconscious) is broken?Attack Granting is in the rules at 3rd (Battle Master Commanding Strike maneuver).  Hit Point as 'not necessarily wounds' is in the rules at 1st (Fighter Second Wind), Short Rest HD healing, and overnight full recovery.  Ranged help at 3rd (Mastermind).  The Healer feat (available at 1st for Alt Humans and 4th for others) does non-magical healing even from unconsciousness (not including the Natural 20 - self-inspiration).So I guess the question is:  if by the rules currently one could bring 3 core features on line at 7th with multiclassing, at what level could a full class bring them all online while not gaining all the extra abilities inconsistent with a Martial support class?  (Sneak Attack, extra skills, Expertise, Second Wind, Action Surge, damage focused maneuvers)Individually none of those seem broken at 3rd, and between a party one could have them all at 3rd.  So what precisely would be broken by having them all come on line by 3rd in a full Warlord class write-up?</blockquote>