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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6819962" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>5e isn't AD&D, but it does evoke it really well. It's not 3e, but it's got good 3e stuff in it, and some missing elements, like PrCs have at least been floated. 5e isn't any one past edition, but it set out to be 'for' fans of all past editions, not to exclude fans or repudiate any specific edition. </p><p></p><p>5e doesn't succeed perfectly. There are still characters you could do in 3.x/PF and 4e that you can't do in 5e. Unless you cut WotC a little slack on the in-development Mystic, there's still some 1e characters you can't quite pull off.</p><p></p><p>The Warlord is a glaring example of a character type you could play to very good effect in 4e, PH1-only, that you can't come close to in 5e. </p><p></p><p>That Bless is providing support every round, and it goes away if the Cleric does.</p><p></p><p>Support classes have never been that wildly popular with players. Through most of the game's history, the stereotypical Band-Aid Cleric has been like the grenade that the last player to join the group is obliged to jump on. Druids weren't a very differentiated alternative, and we all know how much respect the singing-in-combat Bard has always gotten. 4e did make support characters a lot more balanced and playable, and covered more possibly-appealing support concepts than ever before. 5e hasn't backpeddled that far, either: the Bard and Druid are still solidly support-capable, even as they're spellcasting versatility has exploded. There are still alternatives to the stereotypical Band-Aid cleric, just not as many. The Warlord would be another one. Another chance for a party to get together all the needed contributions without someone having to play a class concept they don't much care for. </p><p></p><p>There'd still be more room for support types after that, too: Shaman, Ardent, Artificer...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6819962, member: 996"] 5e isn't AD&D, but it does evoke it really well. It's not 3e, but it's got good 3e stuff in it, and some missing elements, like PrCs have at least been floated. 5e isn't any one past edition, but it set out to be 'for' fans of all past editions, not to exclude fans or repudiate any specific edition. 5e doesn't succeed perfectly. There are still characters you could do in 3.x/PF and 4e that you can't do in 5e. Unless you cut WotC a little slack on the in-development Mystic, there's still some 1e characters you can't quite pull off. The Warlord is a glaring example of a character type you could play to very good effect in 4e, PH1-only, that you can't come close to in 5e. That Bless is providing support every round, and it goes away if the Cleric does. Support classes have never been that wildly popular with players. Through most of the game's history, the stereotypical Band-Aid Cleric has been like the grenade that the last player to join the group is obliged to jump on. Druids weren't a very differentiated alternative, and we all know how much respect the singing-in-combat Bard has always gotten. 4e did make support characters a lot more balanced and playable, and covered more possibly-appealing support concepts than ever before. 5e hasn't backpeddled that far, either: the Bard and Druid are still solidly support-capable, even as they're spellcasting versatility has exploded. There are still alternatives to the stereotypical Band-Aid cleric, just not as many. The Warlord would be another one. Another chance for a party to get together all the needed contributions without someone having to play a class concept they don't much care for. There'd still be more room for support types after that, too: Shaman, Ardent, Artificer... [/QUOTE]
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