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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jayoungr" data-source="post: 6821077" data-attributes="member: 6702445">But Aragorn was the acknowledged leader of the Fellowship after Gandalf's fall.  (See "The Window on the West," where Frodo refers to him as "the leader of our Company from Moria to Rauros," and the only reason he stops there is because that's where he left the group.)Agreed, but we need to establish how the literary examples work before we can think about how best to translate them to D&D rules.The reason I specified mundane is because one of the stated goals for a warlord is for it it be usable in a completely mundane party--no magic and no supernatural stuff of any kind.  But I'm really more concerned about examples of inspiring "leaders" who are not also the acknowledged leaders or commanders of their groups.  That's where I have the most difficulty "getting" the archetype.I agree, which is why translating examples from Tolkien to a setting that does have "magic" and "mundane" categories is problematic.For what it's worth, I am not saying that Gandalf uses spells to hearten the defenders of Gondor.  I am saying that (1) as a "higher" being, he is likely capable of stirring reactions that would be unrealistic if directed toward a mundane human unknown to the soldiers--think racial feature for Deva/Aasimar; and (2) his previous demonstration of a spectacularly effective attack probably contributes to their faith in him.Also, once again, he's their supreme commander, as per a line you yourself quoted in post 171:  "So it was that Gandalf took command of the last defence of the City of Gondor."Off the top of my head, I don't think so.  I reserve the right to change my mind depending on the type of compromises made for an individual iteration of the class, however.</blockquote>

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