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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aldarc" data-source="post: 6821112" data-attributes="member: 5142">Avatar the Last Airbender's Sokka? Aang is the undisputed leader of the group, but Sokka is the mundane tactician, strategist, and planner. Is he a warrior/fighter? Sure, but he often was regularly outclassed by other mundane fighters, such as his girlfriend Suki, Jet, Ty Lee, or even Zuko without his firebending. Mat Cauthon of Wheel of Time. Sure he became a commander of the Band of the Red Hand, but that was something he stumbled into as a result of tactical competency. Are his memories or ta'veren status supernatural? Sure. But I would still say that he qualifies as a mundane inspiring commander. I would say that one of the major problems, however, is that when people list examples of warlord archetypes, they get dismissively handwaved away. "Oh, those are just fighters with leadership feats." or "Oh, those characters can't possibly contribute to our understanding of the warlord, since they commanded troops." It's as if we were talking about rangers, and we were repeatedly met with "No, those aren't rangers. Those are just fighters with wilderness skills and feats." or "They can't be considered rangers, since they are mundane and D&D rangers must cast spells." If everything gets irreducibly reduced to being just a fighter with X, it's a miracle we have barbarians, rangers, and paladins at all.</blockquote>