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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6822830" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>I wouldn't expect you to change your mind on my say-so - either in relation to these examples, or in relation to reading Tolkien, or even if I pointed out that there's a whole edition (4e) in which most healing is inspirational (Healing Word, Inspiring Word, Majestic Word etc, all requiring the recipient to spend a surge).</p><p></p><p>But the reverse is also true. I read Tolkien a certain way. I enjoy that edition. I don't see leadership/inspiration by a person as raising wildly different issues from inspiration or blessing by a god. I don't see putting inspiration into a class as different, in its formal structure, from putting <em>the gods listen to my prayers</em> into a class.</p><p></p><p>So, for me, my answer to your question "Are their literary examples of the warlord" is <em>yes</em>. My answer to the question "Would I like a warlord" is yes. And it seems obvious to me that 5e has the mechanical space for such a class - as is well known, it already has all sorts of relevant bits and pieces in other builds of other classes.</p><p></p><p>The question of how many people need to be more like me than you before WotC designs and publishes such a class is an essentially commercial question, not a question about RPG mechanical design or FRPG tropes. I don't know what the answer is to that question, nor - if one knew the threshold - how short of it, or in excess of it, the FRPGing population is. (If I had to guess, I would say "somewhere short of it", but that's only a guess. I think there are many people who don't care whether it's there, or not there, and those people don't generate any commercial motivation for WotC to do the necessary work.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 6822830, member: 42582"] I wouldn't expect you to change your mind on my say-so - either in relation to these examples, or in relation to reading Tolkien, or even if I pointed out that there's a whole edition (4e) in which most healing is inspirational (Healing Word, Inspiring Word, Majestic Word etc, all requiring the recipient to spend a surge). But the reverse is also true. I read Tolkien a certain way. I enjoy that edition. I don't see leadership/inspiration by a person as raising wildly different issues from inspiration or blessing by a god. I don't see putting inspiration into a class as different, in its formal structure, from putting [I]the gods listen to my prayers[/I] into a class. So, for me, my answer to your question "Are their literary examples of the warlord" is [I]yes[/I]. My answer to the question "Would I like a warlord" is yes. And it seems obvious to me that 5e has the mechanical space for such a class - as is well known, it already has all sorts of relevant bits and pieces in other builds of other classes. The question of how many people need to be more like me than you before WotC designs and publishes such a class is an essentially commercial question, not a question about RPG mechanical design or FRPG tropes. I don't know what the answer is to that question, nor - if one knew the threshold - how short of it, or in excess of it, the FRPGing population is. (If I had to guess, I would say "somewhere short of it", but that's only a guess. I think there are many people who don't care whether it's there, or not there, and those people don't generate any commercial motivation for WotC to do the necessary work.) [/QUOTE]
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