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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6859729" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>And, despite everyone knowing this and all this being true on the face of it, people still freaked out that 4e stopped tracking ammo. It's such a bizarre thing to me to see people reacting to stuff like this that is just commonly understood throughout the history of the game. Even going back to 1e and Basic/Expert, the "combat round" was always acknowledged as an abstraction where all sorts of other stuff was going on in that period of time.</p><p></p><p>Yet, if we follow the logic that combat is abstract, thus ammo can be considered part of that abstraction, people collectively lost their cool. How could a character possibly throw that many knives in a round or shoot that many arrows? Oh my god!!! It's so ((Insert whatever negative phrase you feel fits best here)). It's like people read the game, but then ignore what they're reading and insert their own interpretation, which is actually not supported in any way by the text of the game, and then insisting that their interpretation is somehow the right one.</p><p></p><p>We see this all over the place. Whether it's the HP=Meat "discussion" or tracking ammo, or being able to "inspire" allies. It's so frustrating to try to have these discussions when people keep substituting definitions that aren't supported by the game itself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 6859729, member: 22779"] And, despite everyone knowing this and all this being true on the face of it, people still freaked out that 4e stopped tracking ammo. It's such a bizarre thing to me to see people reacting to stuff like this that is just commonly understood throughout the history of the game. Even going back to 1e and Basic/Expert, the "combat round" was always acknowledged as an abstraction where all sorts of other stuff was going on in that period of time. Yet, if we follow the logic that combat is abstract, thus ammo can be considered part of that abstraction, people collectively lost their cool. How could a character possibly throw that many knives in a round or shoot that many arrows? Oh my god!!! It's so ((Insert whatever negative phrase you feel fits best here)). It's like people read the game, but then ignore what they're reading and insert their own interpretation, which is actually not supported in any way by the text of the game, and then insisting that their interpretation is somehow the right one. We see this all over the place. Whether it's the HP=Meat "discussion" or tracking ammo, or being able to "inspire" allies. It's so frustrating to try to have these discussions when people keep substituting definitions that aren't supported by the game itself. [/QUOTE]
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