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<blockquote data-quote="The Grumpy Celt" data-source="post: 1980657" data-attributes="member: 1019"><p><em>I like Waterdeep in june, how about you?</em></p><p><em>I like a bardic tune, how about you?</em></p><p><em>I love a fireside when a storm is due.</em></p><p><em>How about you?</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>I like tuber chips, moonlight magic trips, how about you?</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>I'm mad about good books, can't get my fill</em></p><p><em>And Khelben’s looks give me a thrill</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Holding hands in the undermountian show, when all the lights are low</em></p><p><em>May not be new, but I like it, how about you?</em></p><p></p><p>The Waterdeep book — City of Splendors: Waterdeep — is due out this summer, July to be specific. </p><p></p><p>According to the official description:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That said, here are some questions for discussion: </p><p>What do you expect to see in this book?</p><p>What do you want to see in this book?</p><p>What do you not want to see in this book?</p><p></p><p>To start this off, I will answer the questions, but I am only speaking for myself.</p><p></p><p>• What do you expect to see in this book?</p><p></p><p>75 percent old material nominally reworked to make it mechanically compatible with 3.5 and/or brought up to date with the current time line of the Forgotten Realms. 25 percent new material.</p><p></p><p>• What do you want to see in this book?</p><p></p><p>Graft, corruption, violence in the streets, strong nobility biases against lower classes and vice versa and detailed descriptions of neighborhoods. Also, a better exploration of how the city relates and works with neighbors.</p><p></p><p>• What do you not want to see in this book?</p><p></p><p>More discussion about how wonderful and unimpeachable the secret Lord of Waterdeep are, which severely limits their usefulness in a story. More reiteration on how – though it is implausible and again limiting the story usefulness of the city – no one is building anything close to the city, but outside the city walls. More </p><p></p><p>Basiclly, what I want for Waterdeep is something like Manhattan as depicted in “Gangs of New York,” but WOTC (and TSR before them) seemed determined to make Waterdeep too nice, too friendly, too steeped in modern values of tolerance, integrity and openness.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Grumpy Celt, post: 1980657, member: 1019"] [i]I like Waterdeep in june, how about you? I like a bardic tune, how about you? I love a fireside when a storm is due. How about you? I like tuber chips, moonlight magic trips, how about you? I'm mad about good books, can't get my fill And Khelben’s looks give me a thrill Holding hands in the undermountian show, when all the lights are low May not be new, but I like it, how about you?[/i] The Waterdeep book — City of Splendors: Waterdeep — is due out this summer, July to be specific. According to the official description: That said, here are some questions for discussion: What do you expect to see in this book? What do you want to see in this book? What do you not want to see in this book? To start this off, I will answer the questions, but I am only speaking for myself. • What do you expect to see in this book? 75 percent old material nominally reworked to make it mechanically compatible with 3.5 and/or brought up to date with the current time line of the Forgotten Realms. 25 percent new material. • What do you want to see in this book? Graft, corruption, violence in the streets, strong nobility biases against lower classes and vice versa and detailed descriptions of neighborhoods. Also, a better exploration of how the city relates and works with neighbors. • What do you not want to see in this book? More discussion about how wonderful and unimpeachable the secret Lord of Waterdeep are, which severely limits their usefulness in a story. More reiteration on how – though it is implausible and again limiting the story usefulness of the city – no one is building anything close to the city, but outside the city walls. More Basiclly, what I want for Waterdeep is something like Manhattan as depicted in “Gangs of New York,” but WOTC (and TSR before them) seemed determined to make Waterdeep too nice, too friendly, too steeped in modern values of tolerance, integrity and openness. [/QUOTE]
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