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Message: <blockquote data-quote="airwalkrr" data-source="post: 3201237" data-attributes="member: 12460">I know what your problem is werk. You want to play D&D. The other players just want to play. It sounds to me like this campaign is not so much about playing a game as it is about hanging out and BSing with buddies, as the campaign clearly sounds like it has a LOT of BSing. It even sounds like some of the players are clearly cheating, yet the DM doesn't seem to call them out on it.If you think this group is worth hanging with (and that is a decision you alone must make), then all you have to do is start playing the way they play. Don't keep a completely accurate track of your hit points (e.g. "forget" to subtract some hits). Inflate your attack rolls, saving throws, and skill checks a bit. Min/max the hell out of your character (the DM seems pretty open so try some tried-and-true abusable combos like Leap Attack and Shock Trooper). In general, just let the actual rules of the game take a back seat to hanging out and chilling. It seems like that is all they are there for anyway.Me? I could never play with a group like that. I am a stingy DM with magic items and treasure and have what most consider very draconian policies on PC item creation. But my players always enjoy my games.</blockquote>