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Wayfarer's Redemption

Banshee16

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Has anyone read the Wayfarer's Redemption series? Did you like it?

I was looking at it at the bookstore, and getting a little confused, because there are different books that appear to be the same one....like there's the Wayfarer's Redemption, but then another book called Battleaxe, which is the first book in the Wayfarer's Redemption trilogy. Which is which?

Banshee
 

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I've read the first three. They were your standard fantasy- not the best, but not the worst I've ever read.

There are 6 books in the series: Battleaxe, Enchanter, and Starman are the first three and form one arc (the Axis Trilogy), and I believe the second three (Sinner, Pilgrim, and Crusader) form another arc (The Wayfarer Redemption). However, when book 1, Battleaxe, was released in the US, it was called the Wayfarer Redemption, and all 6 books are referred to as the Wayfarer Redemption.
 



I read this shortly after reading Rhapsody, which you mentioned in another thread. It looks like you're where I was a few years ago in terms of hunting for new stuff. :)

Sara Douglass has a wonderful ability with language -- there were lines that gave me goosebumps and lines that made my skin crawl. Really really excellent language.

Her plotting bites.

Seriously, if you care about plots, ditch this one. Any attempt at heroism is taken from the heroes by the demands of prophecies and plot, and bear in mind that this is coming from somebody who read the Belgariad and the Mallorean without trouble. There are just way too many instances of heroes coming up with new powers on the spur of the moment in response to some prophecy, and anything people do is actually being steered by the powerful forces beyond the heroes' comprehension.

If you don't care about plotting and you're okay with characters being slightly overwrought and VERY much controlled by prophecies, however, the language is really really really beautiful. REALLY beautiful.
 

takyris said:
I read this shortly after reading Rhapsody, which you mentioned in another thread. It looks like you're where I was a few years ago in terms of hunting for new stuff. :)

Sara Douglass has a wonderful ability with language -- there were lines that gave me goosebumps and lines that made my skin crawl. Really really excellent language.

Her plotting bites.

Seriously, if you care about plots, ditch this one. Any attempt at heroism is taken from the heroes by the demands of prophecies and plot, and bear in mind that this is coming from somebody who read the Belgariad and the Mallorean without trouble. There are just way too many instances of heroes coming up with new powers on the spur of the moment in response to some prophecy, and anything people do is actually being steered by the powerful forces beyond the heroes' comprehension.

If you don't care about plotting and you're okay with characters being slightly overwrought and VERY much controlled by prophecies, however, the language is really really really beautiful. REALLY beautiful.
Given that you've mentioned you've read this series, as well as the Rhapsody one, which did you enjoy better? The reviews on Amazon for Rhapsody actually seemed pretty good. I think it got 4.5 stars from 300+ reviewers, compared to 3.5 from 100+ for the Wayfarer's Redemption.

I am kind of at that point.....I'm working through the Iron Council, but for some reason am just not into it the same way I was the first two books. I'm still waiting for Feast for Crows to come out in paperback...same with Knife of Dreams. I finished Shadowmarch, but have no idea when Tad Williams will release the next one, and I'm waiting for Flight of the Nighthawks to come out in paperback as well.

So, I'm kind of "stuck" in all the series I've been reading, and felt like trying something new. On a whim I picked up and read Rob Bakker's Prince of Nothing and Warrior-Prophet....and I'm waiting for the paperback of Thousandfold Thought. Can't recommend that particular series enough.

Banshee
 

If you're determined to try one of them, I'd go ahead and try both, ideally from the library or used bookstore. I'd read Rhapsody if you generally like gaming fiction, and Wayfarer Redemption if you like stuff like, say, Goodkind.

On the epic fantasy track, the things I'd recommend offhand include:

- The Farseer Trilogy (Robin Hobb) (And there are two more trilogies in this world if you like this)
- Gregory Keyes' "Briar King" and "Charnel Prince" (the third is out in hardcover, but I haven't read it yet)
- Guy Gavriel Kay's Fionavar trilogy (his other books have much less magic, although I highly recommend them if you like historical fantasy -- I loved Tigana and A Song for Arbonne)
- Michael Stackpole's "Dark Glory War", which I didn't love, but which I consider better gaming fiction than "Rhapsody", personally

I've spent most of this year alternating between Guy Gavriel Kay's books and Nora Roberts' "____ in Death" series (writing as J.D. Robb, "Naked in Death", "Glory in Death", etc.) -- which are kind of romantic mysteries set in the year 2050. I've also read the Southern Vampire series, which I like a bunch (Charlaine Harris is the author) -- but it's modern fantasy/mystery/horror, not epic fantasy, so I'm not listing it up there in the bullet list.

Anyway, good luck finding something you like! Sounds like you're the kind of prolific fantasy reader the world needs more of. :)
 

I'm not determined to read them...I'd just noticed them before, and figured on giving them a try.

I did go out and pick up "Lord of Snow and Shadows" by Sarah Ash. It's apparently based on more russian-type stylings, so I figured it would be different.

Guy Gavriel Kay is one author I've never read.

I really liked Stackpole's "Cartomancy", but again....waiting for the sequel to come out in paperback..are his other books of similar style?

I'm gradually working on Patrick O'Brien's Master and Commander series, but can usually only take two of them in a row. Similar with Bernard Cornwell's Sharpe series. So I'm switching between genres pretty regularly. Hence wanting to fill in the blanks with some fantasy as well. The best nonfiction I've read recently was Romeo D'Allaire's "Shake Hands with the Devil".

Last question...I've noticed the Farseer trilogy before, but have never read Robin Hobb. What's it about? She wrote the Assassin's Apprentice, or King's Assassin or something like that, didn't she?

Thanks for the tips. I might have to check out a few of your suggestions. I've noticed Tigana before, but never picked it up. You enjoyed it?

Banshee
 
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Banshee16 said:
Guy Gavriel Kay is one author I've never read.

He might be better known up here in Canada than elsewhere, since he's from here, but I'd heard of him when I lived in the U.S.

I really liked Stackpole's "Cartomancy", but again....waiting for the sequel to come out in paperback..are his other books of similar style?

No idea. I only read the Dark Glory one, and it didn't really wow me. It wasn't bad, but it read more like a setup novel than a real "stuff happening" novel -- which is borne out by what people have said, that it's more like a preparation novel for the actual trilogy, which begins later.

It wasn't bad, though -- and if you liked his other stuff, I'd say that it was solid enough to merit a read. Or, heck, skip it and go right to the main trilogy, which is the Dragon Crown somethingorother.

I'm gradually working on Patrick O'Brien's Master and Commander series, but can usually only take two of them in a row. Similar with Bernard Cornwell's Sharpe series. So I'm switching between genres pretty regularly. Hence wanting to fill in the blanks with some fantasy as well. The best nonfiction I've read recently was Romeo D'Allaire's "Shake Hands with the Devil".

Good stuff! Kay's stuff isn't real-world historical, but it's just about. "Tigana" is based on the era of the Italian city-states, and "Arbonne" is based on the troubadours of France. "Last Light of the Sun" is his viking book, and "The Sarantine Mosaic" (which is two books, "Sailing to Sarantium" and "Lord of Emperors", I think) is the Byzantine empire. "The Lions of Al-Rassan" is pretty much "Spain vs. the Moors".

I liked all of 'em. "Tigana" had the most magic, and "Last Light of the Sun" had some parts with fairy-like creatures, while the magic in the other books was pretty much stuff like divination and twist-of-fate type abilities. Still fantasy, but not wizard-throws-fireball type fantasy.

Last question...I've noticed the Farseer trilogy before, but have never read Robin Hobb. What's it about? She wrote the Assassin's Apprentice, or King's Assassin or something like that, didn't she?

Yep, that's the Farseer Trilogy. If I remember right, it's Assassin's Apprentice, Royal Assassin, and... the third one. Assassin's Quest, maybe. If you like those, you can hit the Tawny Man trilogy next, which picks up with the same characters about fifteen years later, or you can try the Liveship trilogy, which is in the same world but a mostly different set of characters (and a much different tone, which I liked just as much but other people have been irritated by).

Thanks for the tips. I might have to check out a few of your suggestions. I've noticed Tigana before, but never picked it up. You enjoyed it?

I enjoyed it a ton. It's funny, because I write, and it's almost the exact opposite of what I write. I'm great at dialogue and fight scenes and, well, lousy at setting, and Kay is GOOD at dialogue, but the dialogue is so light relative to his massive setting parts that it mostly gets overwhelmed. You'll have a hundred pages go by chronicling the events of one night, and it's not dull handwavey stuff but politicking and scheming from four different viewpoints. Really really good stuff.

Oh, and every Kay book has at least one duel or race or contest that takes an absurdly long time, because he's going from the mind of a contestant or warrior into the mind of somebody watching into the mind of somebody ELSE watching, and so forth. I love it, because it's got some incredibly complex fight-scene explanation, but it bores my friends, who do not share my love for fight scenes to the same extent.

If you were gonna try one, I'd suggest "Tigana", "A Song for Arbonne", or "The Last Light of the Sun". That'd be Italy, France, or Vikings. Choose whichever one interests you most, or whichever one the bookstore has. :)

Again, good luck!
 

My wife's been reading Douglas. She's not as pulled in as she was by Goodkind, but is enjoying them. About the only thing she's told me is that they're good, but might have too much girly/romance bits in them.

She's got Rhapsody sitting on her shelf waiting, too. Saying it's like gaming fiction isn't a great selling point.
 

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