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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9139455" data-attributes="member: 93670">I didn't feel like they &quot;sucked&quot; at the time.&nbsp; The system was a lot more lethal compared to 5e&amp; not just for arcane casters.&nbsp; Unless the campaign was one where you wanted to explore that brutality in near DCC funnel style it was incredibly common for folks to start at level&nbsp; 3 or 5&nbsp; where the fighter was not in mortal danger facing off against an angry housecat &amp; spellcasters were starting to come into their own.&nbsp; Also don't forget that pretty much every caster would have a primary attrib high enough to <a href="https://www.d20srd.org/srd/theBasics.htm#tableAbilityModifiersandBonusSpells" target="_blank">get a bonus spell slot</a> at level 1.&nbsp; the 3.5 DMG even had a section about starting PCs at higher levels (pg199) it started with [spoile=&quot;this&quot;]Sometimes you’re going to want to create characters that aren’t 1st level. Perhaps you have purchased an adventure you’re dying to play, but no one has characters of the appropriate level. Perhaps you just want to jump right to 5th level and start your campaign there. Whatever the reason, creating new characters at any given level isn’t hard (and, in fact, many players find it fun).[/spoiler]but that roughly page of guidance was often simplified to something like &quot;single class level X &amp; pick a +1 weapon of your choice&quot; or similar</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 9139455, member: 93670"] I didn't feel like they "sucked" at the time. The system was a lot more lethal compared to 5e& not just for arcane casters. Unless the campaign was one where you wanted to explore that brutality in near DCC funnel style it was incredibly common for folks to start at level 3 or 5 where the fighter was not in mortal danger facing off against an angry housecat & spellcasters were starting to come into their own. Also don't forget that pretty much every caster would have a primary attrib high enough to [URL='https://www.d20srd.org/srd/theBasics.htm#tableAbilityModifiersandBonusSpells']get a bonus spell slot[/URL] at level 1. the 3.5 DMG even had a section about starting PCs at higher levels (pg199) it started with [spoile="this"] Sometimes you’re going to want to create characters that aren’t 1st level. Perhaps you have purchased an adventure you’re dying to play, but no one has characters of the appropriate level. Perhaps you just want to jump right to 5th level and start your campaign there. Whatever the reason, creating new characters at any given level isn’t hard (and, in fact, many players find it fun). [/spoiler] but that roughly page of guidance was often simplified to something like "single class level X & pick a +1 weapon of your choice" or similar [/QUOTE]

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