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[+] Ways to fix the caster / non-caster gap
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<blockquote data-quote="Mecheon" data-source="post: 9151825" data-attributes="member: 6801776"><p>Yeah, but its an open discussion on closing the gap. Which can be closed either way</p><p></p><p>I still think the easiest way is just "Level 5 is the maximum normal humans ever reach" to just give the 'This is the stage you are absolutely hitting everything is supernatural levels', but, other things to discuss.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If we're going to try and merge both I'd honestly kill both of them at the start. The Cleric is a bit of a D&D thing, the wider healer idea is the clothie healer. The priest, as it were. If we gotta merge it into anything I'd say they'd be sub-factions of that, the cleric losing some of the healing for its armor stuff and its anti-undead, and the druid going down the nature path route. Because 'nature priest' fits druid, but 'nature cleric' I'd argue doesn't. Because...</p><p></p><p></p><p>The problem is the image people have of the cleric, the chainmail clad holy warrior delivering healing? Its still that crusader-ing feel, even with paladins. That whole thing is just a Christian-adjacent Look of holy people, its not something other religions had anything close to. If we're going full on for it, I could see that afor-mentioned Priest thing working, but that'd have to strip so much of the D&D cleric away simply because, the Cleric has those connotations even with the paladin around.</p><p></p><p>The Cleric's Look gives it to a certain type of religion that works in very civilised area (Chainmail pretty much requires a heavy blacksmithing industry, its not an easy thing to make) which pretty much limits you to city-associated ones. It doesn't give itself to really... Any other religion out there except a pseudo-Christianity approach. I know D&D's kind of crammed its Clerics into other religions but its never really been a good fit in those cases. Despite it being a completely allowed thing per D&D rules, there are no clerics of Amaterasu who wear chainmail and use that to banish undead with a mace. Their entire vibe has the exact same problem as the monk does but in opposite, its too stuck on a very specific theme</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mecheon, post: 9151825, member: 6801776"] Yeah, but its an open discussion on closing the gap. Which can be closed either way I still think the easiest way is just "Level 5 is the maximum normal humans ever reach" to just give the 'This is the stage you are absolutely hitting everything is supernatural levels', but, other things to discuss. If we're going to try and merge both I'd honestly kill both of them at the start. The Cleric is a bit of a D&D thing, the wider healer idea is the clothie healer. The priest, as it were. If we gotta merge it into anything I'd say they'd be sub-factions of that, the cleric losing some of the healing for its armor stuff and its anti-undead, and the druid going down the nature path route. Because 'nature priest' fits druid, but 'nature cleric' I'd argue doesn't. Because... The problem is the image people have of the cleric, the chainmail clad holy warrior delivering healing? Its still that crusader-ing feel, even with paladins. That whole thing is just a Christian-adjacent Look of holy people, its not something other religions had anything close to. If we're going full on for it, I could see that afor-mentioned Priest thing working, but that'd have to strip so much of the D&D cleric away simply because, the Cleric has those connotations even with the paladin around. The Cleric's Look gives it to a certain type of religion that works in very civilised area (Chainmail pretty much requires a heavy blacksmithing industry, its not an easy thing to make) which pretty much limits you to city-associated ones. It doesn't give itself to really... Any other religion out there except a pseudo-Christianity approach. I know D&D's kind of crammed its Clerics into other religions but its never really been a good fit in those cases. Despite it being a completely allowed thing per D&D rules, there are no clerics of Amaterasu who wear chainmail and use that to banish undead with a mace. Their entire vibe has the exact same problem as the monk does but in opposite, its too stuck on a very specific theme [/QUOTE]
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