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<blockquote data-quote="John Crichton" data-source="post: 5404093" data-attributes="member: 4779">There were plenty of evil females on Buffy so cherry picking to make a point doesn't make it true.&nbsp; In the cases of the supporting characters your descriptions of them simply aren't accurate.&nbsp; Angel's character wasn't a bash against men, it was a story point about the love that couldn't be.&nbsp; Buffy is a tormented character and for that you need partners that create massive conflict. And that conflict created one of the best moments of the show when she had to make the choice whether to kill him or not.&nbsp; Giles was a father figure and became more so as the show progressed.&nbsp; He was very trustworthy.&nbsp; And Xander was a goofball but also a great and loyal friend.If the show was a good example of &quot;femenazi&quot; storytelling, Willow would have never succumbed to addiction, Buffy would have treated Riley better and Buffy herself wouldn't have been such a flawed character overall.&nbsp; You can bend it all you like but the men weren't all treated as buffoons, incompetent or any other negatives one could drum up.As I outlined, there is nothing to excuse.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="John Crichton, post: 5404093, member: 4779"] There were plenty of evil females on Buffy so cherry picking to make a point doesn't make it true. In the cases of the supporting characters your descriptions of them simply aren't accurate. Angel's character wasn't a bash against men, it was a story point about the love that couldn't be. Buffy is a tormented character and for that you need partners that create massive conflict. And that conflict created one of the best moments of the show when she had to make the choice whether to kill him or not. Giles was a father figure and became more so as the show progressed. He was very trustworthy. And Xander was a goofball but also a great and loyal friend. If the show was a good example of "femenazi" storytelling, Willow would have never succumbed to addiction, Buffy would have treated Riley better and Buffy herself wouldn't have been such a flawed character overall. You can bend it all you like but the men weren't all treated as buffoons, incompetent or any other negatives one could drum up. As I outlined, there is nothing to excuse. [/QUOTE]

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