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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 9270038" data-attributes="member: 2525">You're still angry about a one time video from 12 years ago where devs (one of whom isn't even at that company anymore) were chatting about their ideas unfiltered and explained why they had trouble with one type of Warlord power because it reminded you of a fight others had on the internet concerning an edition war?Damn dude. Just....damn.[Edit: Here is the actual transcript of that dialog:Mearls: We don't expect the sergeant of the guard or captain of the guard to heal downed warriors. That's not the default. That's kind of the thing. And then if you say, "Well, he can heal, because he's really this inspiring presence, well then you've just kind of described a bard. Because bards -- the entire schtick of bards -- is that they are really inspiring and they are charismatic. The bard is the guy with panache who -- "Onwward!" That's the bard's deal, isn't it?Thompson: That's a big part of the bard, I would say. I think there's some desire for a, when you're playing that leader character, to be able to say, "Alright, men! Fight on!" and be the guy leading the charge. To be William Wallace from Braveheart. You want to be that guy. I would not describe a William Wallace-type character as a bard.Mearls: But you also wouldn't say he's a healer. I wouldn't. I wouldn't think, if there's a guy whose been gutted, William Wallace gets the guys to freak out and charge and moon the British--Thompson: Well...Mearls: Healing? If the guy has a broken arm, does William Wallace--Thompson: William Wallace clearly went and inspired the guy who got his hand cut off to keep fighting. There's that--Mearls: But his hand didn't grow back. (laughter) Now I'm being a little ridiculous.Thompson: That's literally a cut scene. Anyway, to bring it back to the warlord, there is a focus that we're trying to take about the warlord being in the fighter, being the tactical leader, and then I think that if you want to play very much the Fourth Edition warlord, we should have a way for you to build that character. Take the fighter. Take the tactical leader-y fighter and apply a specialty or--Mearls: A Healer Specialty. Just like the one piece that's just not there.___________________Notice three things about that discussion. 1) Rodney Thompson, one of the two designers in this conversation, was advocating for non-bardish inspirational healing for martial characters, and 2) Mearls primary position in the debate was that he wanted to protect a Bard niche, 3) Mearls immediately conceded that it was ridiculous statement and they continued to discuss ways they might provided for a inspirational healing warlord-type character.So even the original claim about what happened is false. And this was all in a side note discussion about one type of power one class had, from 12 years ago. And then, in 5e, they included non-magical martial healing as a core ability in the most popular martial class in the game.]</blockquote>

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