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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Whizbang Dustyboots" data-source="post: 9859124" data-attributes="member: 11760">I hear you, but your group (and mine) aren't everyone. As Marc said, the books are selling. And while it seems unlikely for the foreseeable future, WotC could go nuts again and alienate fans even worse than last time, to the extent that some of their current customers don't want to play their stuff again. (There's a big void on my shelf where my Dungeon Crawl Classics stuff used to be, for instance.) At that point, Tales of the Valiant might make more sense to groups like yours or mine.And if not, that's OK too. Lots of products out there are produced that might not be what someone wants -- I'm never going to play Exalted, for instance -- and they still find an audience that loves them to bits.</blockquote>