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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9859539" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>I feel like accidentally spurring the creation of a bunch of D&D-likes was at least a short-term win for us and loss for WotC. Whether it'll work out in the longer-term remains to be seen. I think the biggest issue D&D faces right now is that 2024, whilst seemingly selling okay, also doesn't really seem to have revitalized D&D 5E in the way WotC hoped (I think for the very obvious reason that it's just not very exciting and seemed slightly dated by the time it came out, given what else was happening) and the flood of D&D-likes has caused a degree of disunity perhaps reminiscent of the 4E era.</p><p></p><p>I mean, super-anecdotal but the RPG chat on WhatsApp with my friends used to chock-full of people going "Look at this Kickstarter" for 5E-compatible products, but in the last two years? It's all been non-compatible RPGs and their products, and these aren't like, super-serious RPG-heads, it's just they're not excited about D&D now.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Not an official one, but both multiple versions of the original OGL 1.1 and at least one of the OGL 2.0 leaked, and were awful in different ways. I think by 2.0 they'd dropped the revenue cut stuff, but were like, doubling down on the "we need to be able to review your stuff and cancel your licence whenever we feel like it" and adding some other shady stuff.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, almost all the evil, none of the blowback. Not great <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p>Even at the time of the OGL 1.1/2.0, people were surprised WotC was taking such a stick-based approach and actively suggested "Why not offer a guarantee of being on D&D Beyond if you meet these requirements?", even though I think no 3PP was on it back then except kinda-Critical Role/Darrington. I guess WotC listened to that (or was always planning this, more likely I think). Now we kind of have the worst of both worlds in a sense where you can be an extremely well-behaved company but if WotC don't want to invite you on to Beyond, you're not getting on, and there is no (AFAIK, correct me if I'm wrong) way to get in a queue or on a list to join.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9859539, member: 18"] I feel like accidentally spurring the creation of a bunch of D&D-likes was at least a short-term win for us and loss for WotC. Whether it'll work out in the longer-term remains to be seen. I think the biggest issue D&D faces right now is that 2024, whilst seemingly selling okay, also doesn't really seem to have revitalized D&D 5E in the way WotC hoped (I think for the very obvious reason that it's just not very exciting and seemed slightly dated by the time it came out, given what else was happening) and the flood of D&D-likes has caused a degree of disunity perhaps reminiscent of the 4E era. I mean, super-anecdotal but the RPG chat on WhatsApp with my friends used to chock-full of people going "Look at this Kickstarter" for 5E-compatible products, but in the last two years? It's all been non-compatible RPGs and their products, and these aren't like, super-serious RPG-heads, it's just they're not excited about D&D now. Not an official one, but both multiple versions of the original OGL 1.1 and at least one of the OGL 2.0 leaked, and were awful in different ways. I think by 2.0 they'd dropped the revenue cut stuff, but were like, doubling down on the "we need to be able to review your stuff and cancel your licence whenever we feel like it" and adding some other shady stuff. Yes, almost all the evil, none of the blowback. Not great :( Even at the time of the OGL 1.1/2.0, people were surprised WotC was taking such a stick-based approach and actively suggested "Why not offer a guarantee of being on D&D Beyond if you meet these requirements?", even though I think no 3PP was on it back then except kinda-Critical Role/Darrington. I guess WotC listened to that (or was always planning this, more likely I think). Now we kind of have the worst of both worlds in a sense where you can be an extremely well-behaved company but if WotC don't want to invite you on to Beyond, you're not getting on, and there is no (AFAIK, correct me if I'm wrong) way to get in a queue or on a list to join. [/QUOTE]
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