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<blockquote data-quote="Deset Gled" data-source="post: 9859547" data-attributes="member: 7808">The OP wants us to look at how good the market is going, and claims it means we &quot;won&quot; the OGL thing. What about this success? What about that product doing well?Can you explain how the success of Pathfinder 2e was a result of the OGL fiasco? Is there a reason to connect any of the games OP listed to the OGL thing, or are we just celebrating bread and circuses? Is the guy selling epoxy dice and 3d printed minis at the local craft fair also &quot;winning&quot; the OGL thing, or is he just there because he's following changes in the market? Personally, I don't see the connections.For the record, I like the circus. And I've got more than my food pyramid's worth of gluten in my diet. I just prefer to be a bit more realistic about it. Daggeheart is successful because of Critical Role, not the OGL fiasco. Shadowdark owes more to Kelsey Dionne's web and convention presence than anything WotC has done for her. We didn't win those things from WotC. We bought them.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Deset Gled, post: 9859547, member: 7808"] The OP wants us to look at how good the market is going, and claims it means we "won" the OGL thing. What about this success? What about that product doing well? Can you explain how the success of Pathfinder 2e was a result of the OGL fiasco? Is there a reason to connect any of the games OP listed to the OGL thing, or are we just celebrating bread and circuses? Is the guy selling epoxy dice and 3d printed minis at the local craft fair also "winning" the OGL thing, or is he just there because he's following changes in the market? Personally, I don't see the connections. For the record, I like the circus. And I've got more than my food pyramid's worth of gluten in my diet. I just prefer to be a bit more realistic about it. Daggeheart is successful because of Critical Role, not the OGL fiasco. Shadowdark owes more to Kelsey Dionne's web and convention presence than anything WotC has done for her. We didn't win those things from WotC. We bought them. [/QUOTE]

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