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Message: <blockquote data-quote="saviirkad" data-source="post: 9860160" data-attributes="member: 7054355">It seems like the companies that made entirely separate game systems, like MCDM and Darrington Press, have been going very strong from announcement to present day. A lot of that is also founded on their established customer base and popularity, of course.For the 5e clones, the only one I followed was Kobold Press's ToV, and it seems to me that its success lived and died with the OGL fiasco. I mean full disclosure, I have zero insight into the inner workings of Kobold Press, so I do recognize I could be way off base. It just seems to me that Kobold Press's crowd funding campaigns suggest after the initial surge, they've dwindled down to about even to under what their pre-OGL campaigns were pulling. With costs going up, externally and I'm sure internally with producing two versions of each release. The versions are very similar but it's still additional work.Just from my perspective, it seems like the additional support gained from the hype of a new system and the backlash against Wizards has fully dwindled.I hope I'm wrong though. I may prefer 5e2024 over ToV, but Kobold Press remains my favorite 3PP that I regularly back and purchase from.</blockquote>