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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Leontodon" data-source="post: 5216141" data-attributes="member: 57780">No unfortunately I am not. Actually the examples you mentioned are a nice way to proof how that our real-world moral perceptions are in no way a fitting tool to measure morality in a heroic fantasy world.To say that Kamikaze pilots are evil (which is what you said) is a uniquely Western way and more precisely North American way of viewing them. To a Japanese person the might appear to be noble, dedicated and good willed. You see a cultural pattern that is alien to you and from your American point of departure you judge them. The same goes for your example of a Southern States soldier. If your firmly rooted in a Southern states background you may see the Northern States denial of letting the Southern states go their way as an act of tyranny and oppression.  It is a matter of perspective. Only in a few cases it is possible to see objective evil in the real world. Certainly I woud not search for examples in warfare or one is endagered to end up as a hypocrite. In a fantasy world there IS objective evil. The red dragon is evil (you wont investigate wether he had a hard childhood). The orc soldiers are evil. A demon is evil. Evil exists here in a way so that you can touch it. BTW bringing the accusation of trolling up in that arbitrary fashion does not help any debate and can only be seen as a cry for the moderators to shut your adversary up. As far as I know trolling refers to needless antagonization. I tried to make a point so it hardly qualifies.  If you bring up historical (not contemporary political) examples, than I am entitled to challenge them as wrong. Calling Kamikaze pilots evil would definitly need more elaboration on the matter from your side than may be acceptable on this board, but this is only another proof of the example being badly chosen (You may PM your thoughts on that matter to me I'd love to see you justifying that qualification). You suggest that a real human beings life can be easily stereotyped as being evil. You only prove that the definition of evil in the real world is almost impossible. Therefore no conclusions can be drawn from the real world to a fantasy world were evil is an almost visible force being constantly at work, a world where it may even be represented by its own cosmological sphere and monsters that impersonate it.</blockquote>

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