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<blockquote data-quote="Mal Malenkirk" data-source="post: 850250" data-attributes="member: 834"><p>A Swashbuckler with a +15 BAB, a rapier in his right hand and a dagger in his left hand could very well do what has been mentionned earlier;</p><p></p><p>Attack with the rapier : +15</p><p>Throw the dagger : +10</p><p>Attack with the rapier : +5</p><p></p><p>Or more commonly, attack withe the rapier at +15 and +10, kill the bad guy and then launch the dagger at an opponent more than 5' away which he can't otherwise reach since he's making a full attack. </p><p></p><p>He's not getting an extra attack so there is no need to apply the TWF penalties.</p><p></p><p><em>But he is using his off-hand so the thrown dagger would receive a -4 unless he has ambidexterity.</em> </p><p></p><p>So there is a penalty for attack with a weapon in each hand even if you're not getting an extra attack.  A lesser penalty for a lesser benefit that can be offset at a lesser cost.</p><p></p><p>This kind of maneuver is probably why designer of the Duelist PRC put Ambidexterity but not TWF in the requirement.</p><p></p><p>In the same line of thought, a fighter battling skeleton warriors (require blunt weapons) and fire vulnerable creature could conceivably fight with a mace in one hand and a flaming sword in the other, alternating his attacks as required.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mal Malenkirk, post: 850250, member: 834"] A Swashbuckler with a +15 BAB, a rapier in his right hand and a dagger in his left hand could very well do what has been mentionned earlier; Attack with the rapier : +15 Throw the dagger : +10 Attack with the rapier : +5 Or more commonly, attack withe the rapier at +15 and +10, kill the bad guy and then launch the dagger at an opponent more than 5' away which he can't otherwise reach since he's making a full attack. He's not getting an extra attack so there is no need to apply the TWF penalties. [I]But he is using his off-hand so the thrown dagger would receive a -4 unless he has ambidexterity.[/I] So there is a penalty for attack with a weapon in each hand even if you're not getting an extra attack. A lesser penalty for a lesser benefit that can be offset at a lesser cost. This kind of maneuver is probably why designer of the Duelist PRC put Ambidexterity but not TWF in the requirement. In the same line of thought, a fighter battling skeleton warriors (require blunt weapons) and fire vulnerable creature could conceivably fight with a mace in one hand and a flaming sword in the other, alternating his attacks as required. [/QUOTE]
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