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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 5728484" data-attributes="member: 92511"><p>It is not 3e. Besides the fact that I adjust fluff on a regular basis, but I suppose if it were 3e, this monster would be considered "always chaotic evil"...atleast it always was in earlier editions.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, in game terms, we are well passed this encounter. I just didn't want to "give away" anything for my Story Hour. But, since it is coming up in the next installment, the "monster" is a Roper.</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Well, it doesn't necessarily "hunt sentients." It could just as easily settled somewhere with lots of rats or spiders, kobolds or drow, it just needed/wanted someplace with an ample foodsource for its young and kobolds (portrayed in my world as decidedly stupid creatures) were as good a foodsource as any. The fact that they are "sentient" was also a 'bonus" in the eyes of the parent...wanting, naturally, to give its young the widest possible experience (how to hunt/attack something that could conceivably "fight back" with minimal risk to the young) for their future survival.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If seen this done in many games...for my own gaming world, I am inclined to rule that regardless of the upbringing, other than an/the extremely rare unique exception/situation, they are going to grow up wanting to eat things...whether or not the things "think" or not will be of no consequence to the ropers...if they are hungry.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Excellent point. haha. And one that was argued fervently by the thief and paladin. "We've just been screwed by the kobolds. Why should we think this monstrosity will keep its word?!"</p><p></p><p>At the same time, survival instincts being what they are, I ruled that even an "evil" creature will want its own offspring to survive...other offspring of its kind, perhaps not, but its own? Yes.</p><p></p><p>Would the party accepting its terms and letting it live mean the creature was now an ally? Definitely not. Once its young were safe/if they met again, no holds would be barred. But, c'mon, what are the chances the PCs would ever run into the <em>same</em> roper ever again their lifetime? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /><img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devil.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":devil:" title="Devil :devil:" data-shortname=":devil:" /></p><p></p><p>--SD</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 5728484, member: 92511"] It is not 3e. Besides the fact that I adjust fluff on a regular basis, but I suppose if it were 3e, this monster would be considered "always chaotic evil"...atleast it always was in earlier editions. Well, in game terms, we are well passed this encounter. I just didn't want to "give away" anything for my Story Hour. But, since it is coming up in the next installment, the "monster" is a Roper. Well, it doesn't necessarily "hunt sentients." It could just as easily settled somewhere with lots of rats or spiders, kobolds or drow, it just needed/wanted someplace with an ample foodsource for its young and kobolds (portrayed in my world as decidedly stupid creatures) were as good a foodsource as any. The fact that they are "sentient" was also a 'bonus" in the eyes of the parent...wanting, naturally, to give its young the widest possible experience (how to hunt/attack something that could conceivably "fight back" with minimal risk to the young) for their future survival. If seen this done in many games...for my own gaming world, I am inclined to rule that regardless of the upbringing, other than an/the extremely rare unique exception/situation, they are going to grow up wanting to eat things...whether or not the things "think" or not will be of no consequence to the ropers...if they are hungry. Excellent point. haha. And one that was argued fervently by the thief and paladin. "We've just been screwed by the kobolds. Why should we think this monstrosity will keep its word?!" At the same time, survival instincts being what they are, I ruled that even an "evil" creature will want its own offspring to survive...other offspring of its kind, perhaps not, but its own? Yes. Would the party accepting its terms and letting it live mean the creature was now an ally? Definitely not. Once its young were safe/if they met again, no holds would be barred. But, c'mon, what are the chances the PCs would ever run into the [I]same[/I] roper ever again their lifetime? ;):devil: --SD [/QUOTE]
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