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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8878373" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>That was a good post and I just wanted to highlight those three things.</p><p></p><p>1) Whatever is happening, it really seems like someone is leaking behind-the-scenes non-finalized stuff from WotC, presumably in an attempt to create enough of a kerfuffle that WotC goes "Hmmm this isn't a great idea!". This is far form unprecedented - it happened with videogames on a number of occasions (usually via datamining of beta tests and the like rather than individual leaks, but sometimes it is the latter), and with Western companies has usually proven sufficient to get them to change their mind. The fact that the email the guy was reading out had [LINK] instead of an actual link is obviously how a lot of us format stuff that we're writing up, but that isn't finalized yet.</p><p></p><p>2) The informal language would tie in with the non-finalized content being leaked to warn WotC off this approach. What I've seen happen before, working at corporate law firms, is that a client or even an internal non-lawyer writes what they want a contract to say, then the lawyers go over it and put that in proper legal terms - if possible - or contact them to explain why that's not possible or is a bad approach. But as you say, some contracts do just contain informal language. You don't have to have a lawyer look at your contract - you can, in theory, write a binding contract up yourself, even with colourful language. However, it's a bit like representing yourself in court - unless it's incredibly low stakes (like a parking ticket), it's kind of a terrible idea.</p><p></p><p>3) Yeah and we can certainly hope that's the case. It's even possible (perhaps likely) that there are multiple version of the OGL 1.1 floating around WotC at the moment, and this is just most evil of them, and maybe not the favoured one even, just one some people are arguing for.</p><p></p><p></p><p>IANAL but I don't think anyone should be relying on that. Actual lawyers discussing the issue (including those who think this leak is nonsense) have suggested that's not how it works. At best you'd be risking WotC taking you to court.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If you watch the video, he reads it out and it's very clear that this only applies to newly released products after the 13th. Not extant products.</p><p></p><p>Also yes "which SRD", but they may mean all of the WotC ones. I think it's more likely that it'll be clarified to mean the 1D&D SRD, but we shall see.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8878373, member: 18"] That was a good post and I just wanted to highlight those three things. 1) Whatever is happening, it really seems like someone is leaking behind-the-scenes non-finalized stuff from WotC, presumably in an attempt to create enough of a kerfuffle that WotC goes "Hmmm this isn't a great idea!". This is far form unprecedented - it happened with videogames on a number of occasions (usually via datamining of beta tests and the like rather than individual leaks, but sometimes it is the latter), and with Western companies has usually proven sufficient to get them to change their mind. The fact that the email the guy was reading out had [LINK] instead of an actual link is obviously how a lot of us format stuff that we're writing up, but that isn't finalized yet. 2) The informal language would tie in with the non-finalized content being leaked to warn WotC off this approach. What I've seen happen before, working at corporate law firms, is that a client or even an internal non-lawyer writes what they want a contract to say, then the lawyers go over it and put that in proper legal terms - if possible - or contact them to explain why that's not possible or is a bad approach. But as you say, some contracts do just contain informal language. You don't have to have a lawyer look at your contract - you can, in theory, write a binding contract up yourself, even with colourful language. However, it's a bit like representing yourself in court - unless it's incredibly low stakes (like a parking ticket), it's kind of a terrible idea. 3) Yeah and we can certainly hope that's the case. It's even possible (perhaps likely) that there are multiple version of the OGL 1.1 floating around WotC at the moment, and this is just most evil of them, and maybe not the favoured one even, just one some people are arguing for. IANAL but I don't think anyone should be relying on that. Actual lawyers discussing the issue (including those who think this leak is nonsense) have suggested that's not how it works. At best you'd be risking WotC taking you to court. If you watch the video, he reads it out and it's very clear that this only applies to newly released products after the 13th. Not extant products. Also yes "which SRD", but they may mean all of the WotC ones. I think it's more likely that it'll be clarified to mean the 1D&D SRD, but we shall see. [/QUOTE]
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