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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 9070395" data-attributes="member: 58172">The 4e designers did refer the Martial source as a form of &quot;magic&quot;.But perhaps officially, 4e keeps a nominal distinction.For example, this quote comes from the Martial Power Source 1: &quot;All legendary warriors develop martial power to such an extent that their abilities are the equal of magical abilities.&quot;Then again, a &quot;Martial&quot; Rogue feature can do this: &quot;You steal a bit of magic to stow away on another creature’s teleportation.&quot;&quot;Martial Healing. What explains your warlord’s ability to heal your allies’ wounds? It might seem almost magical − and certainly at the highest levels it is superhuman. But your inspiring word is fundamentally a reflection of your ability to get your allies to do their best.&quot;(Note, 5e is clearer about hit point damage being superficial unless zero hit points. Thus healing any nonphysical damage can be strictly mundane.)The 4e Martial power source is defacto magic, in any case. Even if there is sometimes a dejure hesitance.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 9070395, member: 58172"] The 4e designers did refer the Martial source as a form of "magic". But perhaps officially, 4e keeps a nominal distinction. For example, this quote comes from the Martial Power Source 1: "All legendary warriors develop martial power to such an extent that their abilities are the equal of magical abilities." Then again, a "Martial" Rogue feature can do this: "You steal a bit of magic to stow away on another creature’s teleportation." "Martial Healing. What explains your warlord’s ability to heal your allies’ wounds? It might seem almost magical − and certainly at the highest levels it is superhuman. But your inspiring word is fundamentally a reflection of your ability to get your allies to do their best." (Note, 5e is clearer about hit point damage being superficial unless zero hit points. Thus healing any nonphysical damage can be strictly mundane.) The 4e Martial power source is defacto magic, in any case. Even if there is sometimes a dejure hesitance. [/QUOTE]

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