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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Patman21967" data-source="post: 2094806" data-attributes="member: 19260">I think, if my players actually suggested these characters, I would have cried too....What ever happened to playing normal characters? I read these boards everyday, and see this becoming somewhat of a fad. We have moved back to DnD when 3rd edition came out, and the most radical concept so far, has been a Half Dragon Minotaur warrior, but I allowed it, beacuse he did alot of work in coming up with a reason for it. The group I currntly GM is him, Human RSOP, a human weapons master, a human mystic theurge. I made him take all the negatives for starting as a +8 ECL too. The game I play in, the same group, in FR is all human, I am a Rogue 3/Wiz 1, we have a ranger 4, a Paladin 4, and a Cleric 4. I am not bashing 3 or 3.5, I actually like it, and I know everyone has the right to have fun, and play the game as it sutis them and their GM, but it is really hard to find different groups to game with. I tried one at my FLGS, and noone wants to be a normal heroic character, and earn their stuff. I find that making Items so prevalent has been bad too...All they want to do, is trade in items they find, or constantly ask if they can have something made...Geez....I'm happy to find a +2 weapn... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /></blockquote>

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