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<blockquote data-quote="Doghead Thirteen" data-source="post: 3387593" data-attributes="member: 49966">In my case, it's not 'hatred'. It's a mixture of confusion and annoyance.And before anyone asks, I'm talking about the people who treat role-playing more like a wargame. In my books, if your main concern is how fast you can kill monsters you'd be better off with a copy of Diablo II than a copy of D&amp;D.Being 'the best' isn't the problem. It's treating an RPG as a competitive game when it is no such thing. Everyone involved having a good time is the whole idea, whereas many of these players treat it as their job to 'beat' the other players and the GM.I dare say there's some 'power gamers' out there who do no such thing. I'd like to suggest the following terminology split;Munchkin - An out-and-out cheat.Cheese Weasel - Someone who game-wrecks by power gaming without breaking the game rules.Optimiser - The guys who get a kick out of optimising their character but have the bandwidth and maturity to do so without wrecking the game for everyone else.And let's use 'powergamer' as a catch-all to describe anyone who min/maxes.I shall from now on be using these terms myself.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Doghead Thirteen, post: 3387593, member: 49966"] In my case, it's not 'hatred'. It's a mixture of confusion and annoyance. And before anyone asks, I'm talking about the people who treat role-playing more like a wargame. In my books, if your main concern is how fast you can kill monsters you'd be better off with a copy of Diablo II than a copy of D&D. Being 'the best' isn't the problem. It's treating an RPG as a competitive game when it is no such thing. Everyone involved having a good time is the whole idea, whereas many of these players treat it as their job to 'beat' the other players and the GM. I dare say there's some 'power gamers' out there who do no such thing. I'd like to suggest the following terminology split; Munchkin - An out-and-out cheat. Cheese Weasel - Someone who game-wrecks by power gaming without breaking the game rules. Optimiser - The guys who get a kick out of optimising their character but have the bandwidth and maturity to do so without wrecking the game for everyone else. And let's use 'powergamer' as a catch-all to describe anyone who min/maxes. I shall from now on be using these terms myself. [/QUOTE]

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