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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7081203" data-attributes="member: 996">Yes.&nbsp; It's a quantifiable and objective measure.&nbsp;Nope, just that it's a factor in comparing the relative balance of classes that know spells.&nbsp; One dimension subject to straightforward comparison, among several others not quite so amenable - and plenty of subjective distractions, too.&nbsp; &nbsp;Two other good examples of full casters with a lot going for them besides casting:&nbsp; The Cleric and Druid, both prepping more spells than the Bard knows, and doing so from their whole lists.Similarly, two good examples of full casters that get very little beyond their casting and features that mod that casting:&nbsp; The Wizard, yes, traditions get nifty features, but they're mostly about casting, so while the Wizard can learn tons of spells and prep more than the Sorcerer or Bard can know, it's not got a lot that doesn't directly bear on casting.&nbsp; ... oh, the second example?&nbsp;&nbsp; The Sorcerer, of course, the main/defining thing it gets beyond casting is metamagic, which mods it's casting.&nbsp; :shrug:Perhaps it says more about the (informal) roles of those classes?&nbsp; Cleric, Druid, &amp; Bard have healing spells on their lists and lots of support capability, while the Sorcerer &amp; Wizard have more spotlight-grabbing flashy/powerful offensive spells on theirs, and support more in buffing and utility/problem-solving.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7081203, member: 996"] Yes. It's a quantifiable and objective measure. Nope, just that it's a factor in comparing the relative balance of classes that know spells. One dimension subject to straightforward comparison, among several others not quite so amenable - and plenty of subjective distractions, too. Two other good examples of full casters with a lot going for them besides casting: The Cleric and Druid, both prepping more spells than the Bard knows, and doing so from their whole lists. Similarly, two good examples of full casters that get very little beyond their casting and features that mod that casting: The Wizard, yes, traditions get nifty features, but they're mostly about casting, so while the Wizard can learn tons of spells and prep more than the Sorcerer or Bard can know, it's not got a lot that doesn't directly bear on casting. ... oh, the second example? The Sorcerer, of course, the main/defining thing it gets beyond casting is metamagic, which mods it's casting. :shrug: Perhaps it says more about the (informal) roles of those classes? Cleric, Druid, & Bard have healing spells on their lists and lots of support capability, while the Sorcerer & Wizard have more spotlight-grabbing flashy/powerful offensive spells on theirs, and support more in buffing and utility/problem-solving. [/QUOTE]

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