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<blockquote data-quote="epithet" data-source="post: 7301910" data-attributes="member: 6796566"><p>Ben Solo is a dead end. He killed Han, there's just no coming back from that. I think the big take-away from the Rey-Kylo dynamic is that Kylo is as unredeemable as Rey is incorruptible. They seem clearly to me to represent opposite sides of the Skywalker coin, but only Rey can really have a future. As soon as Kylo killed Han Solo, it seemed to me that the only way this could all end was for Kylo to be the one to kill Snoke, knowing that it would be his end as well, because Kylo refused to allow Snoke to destroy Rey (who he would have already realized is his cousin) and thereby truly honor his grandfather's legacy which he spent so much of TFA misunderstanding.</p><p></p><p>The Force Awakens set out the paths of Kylo, Rey, and Finn. Finn rejected the New Order, and his destiny is to bring about its downfall. Rey has spent her entire life seeking her family, and her destiny is to find it and to embody the Skywalker legacy. Kylo has always sought to be as strong as Darth Vader, and we all know that the ultimate expression of Vader's strength was when he sacrificed everything to defeat the master of the dark side (Palpatine) and protect the scion of the Skywalker legacy. That's Kylo's destiny.</p><p></p><p>I am baffled by people who think that it is somehow a good thing for Rey to come from worthless parents. She's not just strong with the Force, she's operating at Luke levels. She's The Chosen One. Star Wars is an epic tale of Force and Destiny, where things unfold according to prophecy and the will of the Force guides the hand of fate. Rey's destiny is to become the next Skywalker, one way or another. If she isn't a Skywalker in name, then that only means that Lucasfilm has gone out of its way to crap on George Lucas and wreck everything he made, because the role of the Skywalker scion/Chosen One is quite obviously what Rey is filling.</p><p></p><p>With regard to the map, though, I have to defend at least the possibility of a coherent story element. Luke was searching the galaxy in his X Wing, which we saw in the water of Ah Choo. He has to have been using the Force to navigate, however, because he didn't have R2 with him. An X Wing needs an astromech because it lacks a navicomputer, but a Jedi can use the Force to navigate hyperspace. That means that there wouldn't necessarily be a known X,Y,Z coordinate of Ah Choo, but instead a series of seat-of-the-pants jumps that would originate in a known or recognizable star system and end up at Luke's final destination. Now, with that said, the only way that works is if somehow that list of directions and distance could find its way from Ah Choo to Lor San Tekka. Maybe Leia had arranged for Luke's X Wing to transmit that information after every jump, but those transmissions never made it all the way to her. Given a chance to hammer out the details, I could totally make that work, and I desperately cling to the hope that Lawrence Kasdan is better at this than I am.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="epithet, post: 7301910, member: 6796566"] Ben Solo is a dead end. He killed Han, there's just no coming back from that. I think the big take-away from the Rey-Kylo dynamic is that Kylo is as unredeemable as Rey is incorruptible. They seem clearly to me to represent opposite sides of the Skywalker coin, but only Rey can really have a future. As soon as Kylo killed Han Solo, it seemed to me that the only way this could all end was for Kylo to be the one to kill Snoke, knowing that it would be his end as well, because Kylo refused to allow Snoke to destroy Rey (who he would have already realized is his cousin) and thereby truly honor his grandfather's legacy which he spent so much of TFA misunderstanding. The Force Awakens set out the paths of Kylo, Rey, and Finn. Finn rejected the New Order, and his destiny is to bring about its downfall. Rey has spent her entire life seeking her family, and her destiny is to find it and to embody the Skywalker legacy. Kylo has always sought to be as strong as Darth Vader, and we all know that the ultimate expression of Vader's strength was when he sacrificed everything to defeat the master of the dark side (Palpatine) and protect the scion of the Skywalker legacy. That's Kylo's destiny. I am baffled by people who think that it is somehow a good thing for Rey to come from worthless parents. She's not just strong with the Force, she's operating at Luke levels. She's The Chosen One. Star Wars is an epic tale of Force and Destiny, where things unfold according to prophecy and the will of the Force guides the hand of fate. Rey's destiny is to become the next Skywalker, one way or another. If she isn't a Skywalker in name, then that only means that Lucasfilm has gone out of its way to crap on George Lucas and wreck everything he made, because the role of the Skywalker scion/Chosen One is quite obviously what Rey is filling. With regard to the map, though, I have to defend at least the possibility of a coherent story element. Luke was searching the galaxy in his X Wing, which we saw in the water of Ah Choo. He has to have been using the Force to navigate, however, because he didn't have R2 with him. An X Wing needs an astromech because it lacks a navicomputer, but a Jedi can use the Force to navigate hyperspace. That means that there wouldn't necessarily be a known X,Y,Z coordinate of Ah Choo, but instead a series of seat-of-the-pants jumps that would originate in a known or recognizable star system and end up at Luke's final destination. Now, with that said, the only way that works is if somehow that list of directions and distance could find its way from Ah Choo to Lor San Tekka. Maybe Leia had arranged for Luke's X Wing to transmit that information after every jump, but those transmissions never made it all the way to her. Given a chance to hammer out the details, I could totally make that work, and I desperately cling to the hope that Lawrence Kasdan is better at this than I am. [/QUOTE]
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