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<blockquote data-quote="pukunui" data-source="post: 7303494" data-attributes="member: 54629"><p>To be fair to Poe, a lot of it was just bad luck. If that one TIE fighter hadn't crashed into the open bomb bay of that one bomber, it wouldn't have set off a chain reaction that destroyed most of the others.</p><p></p><p>Good points. I'd just like to add that, according to one article I found online, the Last Jedi Visual Dictionary states that Luke found his way to the first Jedi temple by following seedlings of the tree that houses the Jedi texts. Apparently it was an important tree to the Jedi religion, and there was at least one of them growing in the gardens of the Jedi Temple on Coruscant. I'm not sure how following seedlings would lead you to the original tree but undoubtedly the Force was involved.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I would disagree about the physics checking out. She appears to just be floating peacefully in space, when she ought to be continuing to zoom away from the ship since there's no friction in space.</p><p></p><p>As for Plo Koon, his ability to survive in the vacuum of space was later retconned as a special racial ability. I can't recall Ahsoka ever being exposed to the vacuum, though. I'm pretty sure she had a space suit on. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In fairness to Rian, much of Luke's story was established prior to this movie. In fact, it's right there in the opening crawl for TFA. So I wouldn't place the blame on Rian in this case. Place it on Kathleen Kennedy and/or JJ Abrams.</p><p></p><p>This one you can blame on Rian (and Kathleen).</p><p></p><p>I dunno. I feel like a huge chunk of the post-film EU invalidated a lot of what our OT heroes did. Palpatine didn't stay dead. An even bigger Death Star was created (the inspiration for Starkiller Base?). And a mere hundred years or so later, the Jedi are back to being nearly wiped out and the galaxy is crawling with Darths. All LFL has really done with this new trilogy is to bring the Legacy era forward 70-odd years. No, the galaxy isn't crawling with Sith but the Jedi are wiped out again and bad guys are in charge. There's just no Cade Skywalker to sort of but not really save the day ... unless Ben Solo ends up redeeming himself in IX.</p><p></p><p>In my opinion, this new trilogy is no worse than anything from the post-film EU. In some cases, it is better. In others, it's about the same. </p><p></p><p>Who knows. They apparently didn't have the whole trilogy plotted out when they made TFA, so JJ might just make it all up as he goes along with IX.</p><p></p><p>I can't help but wonder how these films would've turned out if Disney hadn't told George to get lost when he approached them with his ideas ... (Oh, George, why did you have to go and sell up to Disney?!)</p><p></p><p></p><p>According to George, it's not. It's just meant to be a soap opera in space. Hence the term "space opera". And in that sense, I'd say all the movies, prequels included, succeed admirably.</p><p></p><p></p><p>FWIW I read all the words.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pukunui, post: 7303494, member: 54629"] To be fair to Poe, a lot of it was just bad luck. If that one TIE fighter hadn't crashed into the open bomb bay of that one bomber, it wouldn't have set off a chain reaction that destroyed most of the others. Good points. I'd just like to add that, according to one article I found online, the Last Jedi Visual Dictionary states that Luke found his way to the first Jedi temple by following seedlings of the tree that houses the Jedi texts. Apparently it was an important tree to the Jedi religion, and there was at least one of them growing in the gardens of the Jedi Temple on Coruscant. I'm not sure how following seedlings would lead you to the original tree but undoubtedly the Force was involved. I would disagree about the physics checking out. She appears to just be floating peacefully in space, when she ought to be continuing to zoom away from the ship since there's no friction in space. As for Plo Koon, his ability to survive in the vacuum of space was later retconned as a special racial ability. I can't recall Ahsoka ever being exposed to the vacuum, though. I'm pretty sure she had a space suit on. In fairness to Rian, much of Luke's story was established prior to this movie. In fact, it's right there in the opening crawl for TFA. So I wouldn't place the blame on Rian in this case. Place it on Kathleen Kennedy and/or JJ Abrams. This one you can blame on Rian (and Kathleen). I dunno. I feel like a huge chunk of the post-film EU invalidated a lot of what our OT heroes did. Palpatine didn't stay dead. An even bigger Death Star was created (the inspiration for Starkiller Base?). And a mere hundred years or so later, the Jedi are back to being nearly wiped out and the galaxy is crawling with Darths. All LFL has really done with this new trilogy is to bring the Legacy era forward 70-odd years. No, the galaxy isn't crawling with Sith but the Jedi are wiped out again and bad guys are in charge. There's just no Cade Skywalker to sort of but not really save the day ... unless Ben Solo ends up redeeming himself in IX. In my opinion, this new trilogy is no worse than anything from the post-film EU. In some cases, it is better. In others, it's about the same. Who knows. They apparently didn't have the whole trilogy plotted out when they made TFA, so JJ might just make it all up as he goes along with IX. I can't help but wonder how these films would've turned out if Disney hadn't told George to get lost when he approached them with his ideas ... (Oh, George, why did you have to go and sell up to Disney?!) According to George, it's not. It's just meant to be a soap opera in space. Hence the term "space opera". And in that sense, I'd say all the movies, prequels included, succeed admirably. FWIW I read all the words. [/QUOTE]
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