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<blockquote data-quote="epithet" data-source="post: 7303801" data-attributes="member: 6796566"><p>I seriously doubt we've seen the last of Snoke. He somehow recovered from having his head crushed, I don't think this is the worst thing that's happened to him.</p><p></p><p>People seem very much ready to accept what they're shown in this movie at face value. Remember, this is a trilogy started by JJ "he's totally not Khan" Abrams. Rian is out there talking about how there was essentially no story guidance provided to him, and that he was given complete authority to do whatever he wanted with Snoke, to make Rey's parents whoever he felt like making them, so on and so forth. I'm amazed that anyone believes that. These are billion-dollar movies in the world's most valuable movie franchise. You seriously don't think there was an outline of the trilogy nailed down before Ep 7 was even begun? Who Snoke is, who Rey's parents are, and what ultimately happens to Rey, Poe, and Finn as well as Han, Luke, and (subject to tragic change) Leia was all worked out ahead of time for the trilogy... it had to have been. This is Disney, they don't just wing it.</p><p></p><p>That means, to me, that every time Rian says he was not given any guidance about a major plot point, he's lying. It means that that plot point was absolutely given to him ahead of time and he had to work around it, and that means that Snoke's death and Rey's redneck origins are very likely feints, and that there is some bigger plan yet to play out.</p><p></p><p>I still believe that once Kylo killed Han Solo, he had to die. As Leia's son and someone who aspires to emulate Vader, he has to sacrifice himself to end the larger threat, thereby achieving some level of redemption. That means Snoke probably returns with a "surprise, I'm unkillable" moment, and the only way to end him for good requires Ben Solo to go out with him. Because hey, you can't skewer Han Solo and drop his body down a bottomless shaft and get away with that... you gotta die. Even if you're his son.</p><p></p><p>This trilogy is lifting plot points from the original trilogy blatantly, and I think the misdirection about Rey's parents is one such. (Luke's father was a navigator on a spice freighter, then he was a Jedi that was betrayed and murdered by Darth Vader, then Vader was his father.) The return of Snoke, however, seems to be more of a nod to Darth Maul's "death" and return in the Clone Wars.</p><p></p><p>Unless I'm wrong, and Kathleen Kennedy is just signing off on one movie at a time with no larger plan. If you believe that, I have some beachfront property in New Mexico you should buy as an investment.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="epithet, post: 7303801, member: 6796566"] I seriously doubt we've seen the last of Snoke. He somehow recovered from having his head crushed, I don't think this is the worst thing that's happened to him. People seem very much ready to accept what they're shown in this movie at face value. Remember, this is a trilogy started by JJ "he's totally not Khan" Abrams. Rian is out there talking about how there was essentially no story guidance provided to him, and that he was given complete authority to do whatever he wanted with Snoke, to make Rey's parents whoever he felt like making them, so on and so forth. I'm amazed that anyone believes that. These are billion-dollar movies in the world's most valuable movie franchise. You seriously don't think there was an outline of the trilogy nailed down before Ep 7 was even begun? Who Snoke is, who Rey's parents are, and what ultimately happens to Rey, Poe, and Finn as well as Han, Luke, and (subject to tragic change) Leia was all worked out ahead of time for the trilogy... it had to have been. This is Disney, they don't just wing it. That means, to me, that every time Rian says he was not given any guidance about a major plot point, he's lying. It means that that plot point was absolutely given to him ahead of time and he had to work around it, and that means that Snoke's death and Rey's redneck origins are very likely feints, and that there is some bigger plan yet to play out. I still believe that once Kylo killed Han Solo, he had to die. As Leia's son and someone who aspires to emulate Vader, he has to sacrifice himself to end the larger threat, thereby achieving some level of redemption. That means Snoke probably returns with a "surprise, I'm unkillable" moment, and the only way to end him for good requires Ben Solo to go out with him. Because hey, you can't skewer Han Solo and drop his body down a bottomless shaft and get away with that... you gotta die. Even if you're his son. This trilogy is lifting plot points from the original trilogy blatantly, and I think the misdirection about Rey's parents is one such. (Luke's father was a navigator on a spice freighter, then he was a Jedi that was betrayed and murdered by Darth Vader, then Vader was his father.) The return of Snoke, however, seems to be more of a nod to Darth Maul's "death" and return in the Clone Wars. Unless I'm wrong, and Kathleen Kennedy is just signing off on one movie at a time with no larger plan. If you believe that, I have some beachfront property in New Mexico you should buy as an investment. [/QUOTE]
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