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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 7306196" data-attributes="member: 5143">Yes, he makes mistakes in ESB. That's kind of the point. He needs to learn from them.I got a very different vibe from this movie than you did.I saw a Luke who had thought everything through in his plan to save Han. He sent the droids in first with his lightsaber both to give Jabba a chance to let Han go willingly and avoid killing but also to set up the second layer of his plan: Get Lando and Leia to infiltrate the palace and free him in the middle of the night. As a backup plan to that, just in case it didn't work, he showed up himself and tried to persuade Jabba to hand him over. Even if all of that failed, we go back to giving R2 his lightsaber so they can kill Jabba and make their retreat. They win mostly because of his planning 3 or 4 levels deep but also because of luck...but there's no such thing as luck, only the Force. He relied on the Force and it helped them. It helped them mostly because Luke was there and was a Jedi.Later, he does make a mistake by going with them and risking the mission...but he does it because he trusts his feelings that his father will turn. Obi-Wan and Yoda have both told him over and over that he needs to let go. He needs to stop THINKING so much and instead do what FEELS right, because that's the way the Force works.So, he feels it is right to go with them...and he's correct. Vader lets them through because he wants to confront his son. Without him there, he might have detected them anyways and NOT let them through because he had no reason to.When he gets there, his feeling about his father is correct. He trusted in the Force and was right. As for him "easily" being goaded. He stands there for a while being constantly goaded and refuses to take the bait like 8 or 9 times before watching all of his friends die out the window finally breaks him and he thinks he needs to do something about the situation. That's not exactly "easily".The point is that he DOES stop himself. He doesn't give in to anger in the end. He is wise enough to realize that's not how he's going to win. The only way he'll win is by trusting in his father. Trusting in the Light side of the Force. It's a huge gamble. But the Force rewards him by taking the high road by having his father save him.</blockquote>

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