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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Flexor the Mighty!" data-source="post: 7306209" data-attributes="member: 1013">That is pretty much it for me.  I kind of understand the desire to put the franchise pretty much right were it was in 1977 when SW came out since its a proven formula. I'm sure if they wouldn't have made the Force cry out with the rage of a million fanboys they would have just rebooted it.  But to avoid that they kind of rebooted it by just retelling the first movie while keeping the original trilogy in cannon.   But by doing that they really undercut the heroes and movies a lot of people grew up loving.  In hindsight Luke is a crap Jedi* and Return of the Jedi was a bad title since they never really did return just one sad old joke and a new group of "Sith". Leia was a bad leader since her New Republic really lead to nothing, Han was just kind of pathetic. Not much of a father, apparently not much of a partner to Leia, and even lost his ship.  Nothing they did was much good since a new breed of heroes ended up in the exact same place fighting a new Empire with a new Rebellion what 20 years later?  And they made the new Vader stand in emo and kind of a mewling mess, I get the impression he cries a lot. I understand that not everyone has that level of attachment to the old characters, or do and still like where this is going.*Mark Hammil is calling this character Jake Skywalker in recent interviews since he doesn't think Luke would do any of this.</blockquote>

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