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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 7306790" data-attributes="member: 5143">Yes. I'm saying a large number of things in the movie don't follow real world logic. A lightsaber can't work the way it is described, hyperspace isn't really a thing, there is no sound in space, and so on. Most of the physics in the movie are just nonsense. It's been like that for a while. Lucas even used parsec as a measurement for speed and an explanation had to be given in books for that to make any sense...but it was just covering up for poor understanding of physics and artistic license by the filmmakers.I wish it wasn't like that, but we kind of have to go in with a healthy sense of "Did that really happen exactly that way or the the filmmakers really want to show us a cool explosion so even though an explosion shouldn't be able to happen...it does anyways?"Pretty much if we look at something and think "Huh...that doesn't make much sense the way it is explained to us" then we have to assume there is another explanation they just haven't given us or the movie is just wrong.3 of us walked out of the theatre saying "They were on a planet too far away to see the beam. That doesn't make any sense. How did they see that beam?" and no one could come up with an answer for it. The 3 of us were positive that the planet they were on was very far away since they had established that through a lot of other dialog (everyone died in the Hosnian system, they didn't die...they weren't in the Hosnian system). So, we were left with 2 conflicting things the movie told us: They were super far away and yet they saw the beam in the sky which physics tells us is impossible. So, we just walked out confused and frustrated that the movie told us 2 different things. However, most of us were willing to bet that given Star Wars' (and especially JJ Abrams') history with fudging physics for storytelling, that it's likely they just wanted our heroes to see the explosion in the sky and react to it, physics be damned.When we found out later that the novel and the official lorekeeper, Pablo Hidalgo had both answered the question with "weird hyperspace rip" that could be seen everywhere in the galaxy, we shrugged and figured it was a retroactive attempt to explain poor filmmaking.That's because you never responded to any of them at all. You didn't explain why all the logical inconsistencies don't matter.This conversation could be summarized as:You: "They have to be in the same system, you couldn't see it in the sky otherwise"Me: "But the lore people at Lucasfilm say that the planets are super far apart and even give an explanation as to why you can see the beam so far away."You: "None of that matters since it isn't in the movie. They have to be in the same system, you couldn't see it in the sky otherwise."Me: "Fine. But the movie pretty much says they aren't in the same system. Multiple times. Plus if they were in the same system, the entire plot wouldn't make sense. How do you respond to that?"You: "But they have to be in the same system, you couldn't see it in the sky otherwise."There's one piece of evidence that says they are in the same system and about 20 pieces that they aren't.</blockquote>

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