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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 7310826" data-attributes="member: 710"><p>I think the ultimate problem I have with the sequels is that it feels like someone added a new epilogue to the Star Wars fairy tale at Episode VI, crawling over the screen after the final scene:</p><p></p><p>"The <strong>Republic </strong>is restored with the death of the <strong>Emperor </strong>and <strong>Darth Vader</strong>. <strong>Leia </strong>and <strong>Han </strong>marry and have a son <strong>Ben</strong>, and he is powerful in the Force. <strong>Luke </strong>begins training Ben in the way of the <strong>Jedi</strong>, but Ben is corrupted by the Dark Force User <strong>Snoke</strong>. In a crisis of faith, Luke decides against killing his nephew, but this sends Ben over the edge to the Dark Side. Luke runs away, giving up on the Jedi and the Force, hoping to die on a remote planet. Han and Leia separate over their despair over their son. Meanwhile, the Republic refuses to organize to defend the against the newly forming <strong>First Order</strong> controlled by Snoke, and Leia is forced out of her position in the Republic, joining a <strong>Resistance </strong>that hopes to stop the First Order. In secret, the First Order is building a new superweapon, even more powerful than the dreaded Death Star, plotting to destroy the Republic once again."</p><p></p><p>And that is just not something I like. It's as if Disney would suddenly decide to go for the Hans Christian Andersen version of the Little Mermaid in the end (you know, the one where is turned into foam after she doesn't marry the Prince she fell in love with).</p><p></p><p>---</p><p></p><p>But ignoring this, I like Luke's final actions in the movie. It mirrors Obi Wan - Obi Wan wasn't simply killed in a duel by Darth Vader. He had put Luke on a good path and secured his escape, and he stopped fighting and let Vader take the final blow - allowing him to become one with the Force. Whether Force Ghosts are "more powerful than you can ever imagine" in the traditional meaning of powerful (like calling lightning) or the spiritual or not, it is certainly a noteworthy achievement. Luke scenes with Kylo is also is another reminder that The Force is not about swinging light sabers and levitating rocks - Ken might be good with the light saber, but he didn't see what was really going on, and that shows Luke's (and maybe with that, also the Jedi/Light Side) superiority over him.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 7310826, member: 710"] I think the ultimate problem I have with the sequels is that it feels like someone added a new epilogue to the Star Wars fairy tale at Episode VI, crawling over the screen after the final scene: "The [B]Republic [/B]is restored with the death of the [B]Emperor [/B]and [B]Darth Vader[/B]. [B]Leia [/B]and [B]Han [/B]marry and have a son [B]Ben[/B], and he is powerful in the Force. [B]Luke [/B]begins training Ben in the way of the [B]Jedi[/B], but Ben is corrupted by the Dark Force User [B]Snoke[/B]. In a crisis of faith, Luke decides against killing his nephew, but this sends Ben over the edge to the Dark Side. Luke runs away, giving up on the Jedi and the Force, hoping to die on a remote planet. Han and Leia separate over their despair over their son. Meanwhile, the Republic refuses to organize to defend the against the newly forming [B]First Order[/B] controlled by Snoke, and Leia is forced out of her position in the Republic, joining a [B]Resistance [/B]that hopes to stop the First Order. In secret, the First Order is building a new superweapon, even more powerful than the dreaded Death Star, plotting to destroy the Republic once again." And that is just not something I like. It's as if Disney would suddenly decide to go for the Hans Christian Andersen version of the Little Mermaid in the end (you know, the one where is turned into foam after she doesn't marry the Prince she fell in love with). --- But ignoring this, I like Luke's final actions in the movie. It mirrors Obi Wan - Obi Wan wasn't simply killed in a duel by Darth Vader. He had put Luke on a good path and secured his escape, and he stopped fighting and let Vader take the final blow - allowing him to become one with the Force. Whether Force Ghosts are "more powerful than you can ever imagine" in the traditional meaning of powerful (like calling lightning) or the spiritual or not, it is certainly a noteworthy achievement. Luke scenes with Kylo is also is another reminder that The Force is not about swinging light sabers and levitating rocks - Ken might be good with the light saber, but he didn't see what was really going on, and that shows Luke's (and maybe with that, also the Jedi/Light Side) superiority over him. [/QUOTE]
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