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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 7313849" data-attributes="member: 16814"><p>Star Wars has been compared to opera and soaps. The comparison to fairy tales is a poor choice on your part. Yes, some fairy tales end with happily ever after, some have no future presented (Hansel and Gretel, who are still lost in the woods, or the Little Mermaid, which ends in tragedy for the titular character). Operas and soaps very rarely have happily ever after endings.</p><p></p><p>You apparently sold yourself a bill of goods that the OT ended in 'happily ever after' and are disappointed your assumption wasn't shared by the writers of the new movies. This, again, isn't a complaint about bad storytelling -- you've yet to make a case for that which withstands it's own scrutiny in the hands of a different perspective -- but, again, a complaint that the story told was not to your personal liking. And that's fine, but let's get down to that being the problem rather than the special pleadings that the NT somehow tells stories badly and that's the reason you don't like them. In other words, your subjective opinion is perfectly valid, and I certainly don't begrudge you disliking the TLJ. However, this attempt to cast Star Wars as one type of story that aligns with your preconceptions when it's not clearly that kind of story (Star Wars borrows from many genres) seems a strange way to try to lend unneeded legitimacy to your opinion. It doesn't lend legitimacy -- your opinion is valid as is -- it lends a strange timidity from boldly stating that you just didn't like it because it didn't treat the characters how you wanted them to be treated.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 7313849, member: 16814"] Star Wars has been compared to opera and soaps. The comparison to fairy tales is a poor choice on your part. Yes, some fairy tales end with happily ever after, some have no future presented (Hansel and Gretel, who are still lost in the woods, or the Little Mermaid, which ends in tragedy for the titular character). Operas and soaps very rarely have happily ever after endings. You apparently sold yourself a bill of goods that the OT ended in 'happily ever after' and are disappointed your assumption wasn't shared by the writers of the new movies. This, again, isn't a complaint about bad storytelling -- you've yet to make a case for that which withstands it's own scrutiny in the hands of a different perspective -- but, again, a complaint that the story told was not to your personal liking. And that's fine, but let's get down to that being the problem rather than the special pleadings that the NT somehow tells stories badly and that's the reason you don't like them. In other words, your subjective opinion is perfectly valid, and I certainly don't begrudge you disliking the TLJ. However, this attempt to cast Star Wars as one type of story that aligns with your preconceptions when it's not clearly that kind of story (Star Wars borrows from many genres) seems a strange way to try to lend unneeded legitimacy to your opinion. It doesn't lend legitimacy -- your opinion is valid as is -- it lends a strange timidity from boldly stating that you just didn't like it because it didn't treat the characters how you wanted them to be treated. [/QUOTE]
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