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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Morrus" data-source="post: 7314151" data-attributes="member: 1">You don't see Rey having extensive lightsaber training. We don't see it, but that doesn't mean that it wasn't there. That's me using your exact words to show you how untenable they are; or how you apply differing standards to two identical instances. The weird thing is that you're willing to invent scenes that didn't exist to create a fictional Luke narrative in your mind, and refuse to acknowledge scenes that *do* exist which contradict the Rey narrative in your mind. We can all just invent stuff not in the movie to suit our narratives. It feels like you're trying *really* hard to invent things which aren't in either movie to portray Luke's story as unfolding differently to Rey's, when in reality they're pretty much exactly the same; but you are adamantly refusing to accept that to the point where you're creating your own movie scripts to back it up.When you can't accept that Luke being able to blow up the Death Star without a targeting computer is the exact same character arc as Rey being able to fight with a lightsaber, you've got some kind of blockage going on. When you take that so far as to actually invent off-screen implied scenes for one character and not the other, it just gets all kind of weird.And I'm still chuckling over your classic "One moment Luke meets Yoda, in the next scene he's doing backflips!" howler. Literally your exact criticism of Rey.</blockquote>