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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mallus" data-source="post: 7327511" data-attributes="member: 3887">I get what you're saying. It seemed odd to me, but it does raise the question: why are certain regional English accents (British, Californian) appropriate for Star Wars, but not others?But, admittedly, they do less-than-admirable things from time to time. Like fall to the Dark Side and lop off their son's hand. "National Geographic" is a great way to describe those scenes, but I think it also explains why they're in the film. In TLJ the Force is depicted as the sum of forces of nature, all that energy and tension in a state of balance, the cycle of life and death, etc. So we get Rey, often seen as a small figure practicing lightsaber forms surrounding by the force and grandeur and natural beauty of that island. The cinematography serves those scenes well -- emphasizing the relationship between the Force and the Jedi.Compare them to Luke's training scenes on Dagobah. I think the idea is somewhat similar; Yoda is hiding out a swamp planet, in a place surrounded by life, by the Force. Except it's shot on an obvious soundstage, all (almost?) inert material. TLJ's swooping on-location nature porn does a better job.Aside from all the stuff that didn't work for you, what seemed "nihilistic and cynical" about it? It's clearly -- i.e. stated directly in-movie by a character message is "Choose to fight when you must. Don't fight to destroy your enemies. Fight to save the ones you love". Even Luke's arc is uplifting. After years of self-imposed exile spent in despair and self-doubt -- though to his credit never falling to the Dark Side -- he gives Rey a masterclass lesson in the Force, then goes out in a franchise-best Crowning Moment of Awesome to aid his sister and her Resistance. Then, finally at peace, he evaporates into the Force, having not actually broken his vow to never leave Ahch-To. Mind you, I'm not trying to argue you into liking the film. But where's the nihilism?</blockquote>

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