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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 5372508" data-attributes="member: 92511">I'm sort of a combination, I guess. Comfortably straddling the fence, as it were. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> I agree with Doctor DM and Johnny3D3D and DrunkonDuty.I do want my PCs to, if they die, die for a reason/have a heroic scene that lives on in game infamy.Dying for a missed check of this or that does seem rather pointless (not counting, say, checking locks for explodey/poisony/death by horror traps. hehehe. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devil.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":devil:" title="Devil&nbsp; &nbsp; :devil:" data-shortname=":devil:" />).So I will/do, as DrunkonDuty suggests, &quot;make it work&quot; somehow. This is, of course, contingent on it being a character that the player obviously likes and generally plays well and puts time into/has put time into. &quot;Bad luck&quot; is expected and included for anyone on occasion, but I'm not going to have you die from a &quot;slip&quot;...especially mid-to-high level characters that the players have had for a while/long time. You ARE gonna take damage on the fall...probably lots. Maybe lose or break an item or two on the way down or the landing. But I'll try not to/won't necessarily kill you.That said, I am also of the camp that Johnny3D3D points out, if the characters are being/doing something STUPID, on purpose, that they have the means and/or clues to avoid, then I might be less forgiving...especially characters with a reasonable intelligence.I am, also, of the camp that doesn't fudge rolls for the players. Specifically, I don't fudge combat rolls (hits, saves, 99% of the time damage also though I do recall &quot;adjusting&quot; damage amounts in climactic battles to keep players in the game/big scene for as long as possible. But we're not talking about &quot;the climactic/big scene&quot; here).If the characters (players) are too stubborn or too stupid to say &quot;RUN AWAY&quot; when a combat is not going their way (overwhelming odds, bad decisions/tactics, just plain lousy dice luck, whatever), then yeah, sorry, it's gonna be a TPK by that single giant centipede at the first chamber. So....what was the question? Ah! Yes, heroic deaths good, &quot;weak deaths&quot; avoided if possible.Have fun and happy dying.<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/angel.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":angel:" title="Angel&nbsp; &nbsp; :angel:" data-shortname=":angel:" />--Steel Dragons</blockquote>

[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 5372508, member: 92511"] I'm sort of a combination, I guess. Comfortably straddling the fence, as it were. :p I agree with Doctor DM and Johnny3D3D and DrunkonDuty. I do want my PCs to, if they die, die for a reason/have a heroic scene that lives on in game infamy. Dying for a missed check of this or that does seem rather pointless (not counting, say, checking locks for explodey/poisony/death by horror traps. hehehe. :devil:). So I will/do, as DrunkonDuty suggests, "make it work" somehow. This is, of course, contingent on it being a character that the player obviously likes and generally plays well and puts time into/has put time into. "Bad luck" is expected and included for anyone on occasion, but I'm not going to have you die from a "slip"...especially mid-to-high level characters that the players have had for a while/long time. You [I]ARE [/I]gonna take damage on the fall...probably lots. Maybe lose or break an item or two on the way down or the landing. But I'll try not to/won't necessarily kill you. That said, I am also of the camp that Johnny3D3D points out, if the characters are being/doing something STUPID, on purpose, that they have the means and/or clues to avoid, then I might be less forgiving...especially characters with a reasonable intelligence. I am, also, of the camp that doesn't fudge rolls for the players. Specifically, I don't fudge combat rolls (hits, saves, 99% of the time damage also though I do recall "adjusting" damage amounts in climactic battles to keep players in the game/big scene for as long as possible. But we're not talking about "the climactic/big scene" here). If the characters (players) are too stubborn or too stupid to say "RUN AWAY" when a combat is not going their way (overwhelming odds, bad decisions/tactics, just plain lousy dice luck, whatever), then yeah, sorry, it's gonna be a TPK by that single giant centipede at the first chamber. So....what was the question? Ah! Yes, heroic deaths good, "weak deaths" avoided if possible. Have fun and happy dying.:angel: --Steel Dragons [/QUOTE]

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