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<blockquote data-quote="jrowland" data-source="post: 6326138" data-attributes="member: 94389">If you don't want to win, don't throw a wizard loaded with spells that are SoS to the target character.&nbsp; The DM &quot;owns&quot; the NPCs/Monsters. Don't make the Wizard Int 20, give him something like 16. Throw a lower level wizard at the party. Choose other spells that aren't so SoS. The DM owns it. Give the wizard is own bonds/ideals/flaws and have him play to that rather than perfect execution of spell choice against character weakness. If you use a published adventure, do the same. The DM owns those encounters too. Modify, tweak, etc.I am ok with SoS. It gives me wiggle room as DM to pull off the occasional &quot;Yeah, this dude is that bad-ass&quot; without resorting to full-on DM fiat. It becomes a puzzle for the players to figure out: &quot;He'll just hold person on me and game over...we need to find another way. How about an illusion such that me and the wizard look like each other? think he'll waste the spell on the wizard&quot;My players enjoy that kind of thing.It is a playstyle preference. It's not broken.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jrowland, post: 6326138, member: 94389"] If you don't want to win, don't throw a wizard loaded with spells that are SoS to the target character. The DM "owns" the NPCs/Monsters. Don't make the Wizard Int 20, give him something like 16. Throw a lower level wizard at the party. Choose other spells that aren't so SoS. The DM owns it. Give the wizard is own bonds/ideals/flaws and have him play to that rather than perfect execution of spell choice against character weakness. If you use a published adventure, do the same. The DM owns those encounters too. Modify, tweak, etc. I am ok with SoS. It gives me wiggle room as DM to pull off the occasional "Yeah, this dude is that bad-ass" without resorting to full-on DM fiat. It becomes a puzzle for the players to figure out: "He'll just hold person on me and game over...we need to find another way. How about an illusion such that me and the wizard look like each other? think he'll waste the spell on the wizard" My players enjoy that kind of thing. It is a playstyle preference. It's not broken. [/QUOTE]

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