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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6329003" data-attributes="member: 42582">Well, one person's opportunity to &quot;opt in&quot; is another person's feat tax. Where the boundary lies is a matter of taste, obviously, but [MENTION=23935]Nagol[/MENTION] and [MENTION=5889]Stalker0[/MENTION] have already posted the examples that show that building up a weak stat isn't likely to help that much.The issue is the inability to bring a proficiency bonus to bear.Another issue is the question of fun in PC building - I think that if you are spending all your PC boosts to buff your defence against Hold and Dominate, then it is not as satisfying as it might be.And pulling back to a bigger context: in all the years of debate around AD&amp;D, and saving throws, and hit points, and whether low-level MUs are too weak and/or high level ones too strong, I never saw the criticism that high level fighter saves are too good. This &quot;narrative space&quot; for low fighter saves is, as best I can see, purely an artefact of 3E. That's not to deny that there might now be a demand for it - but I think that demand has been created by experience with a particular system. It was not inherent to fantasy RPGers as such, I don't think.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 6329003, member: 42582"] Well, one person's opportunity to "opt in" is another person's feat tax. Where the boundary lies is a matter of taste, obviously, but [MENTION=23935]Nagol[/MENTION] and [MENTION=5889]Stalker0[/MENTION] have already posted the examples that show that building up a weak stat isn't likely to help that much. The issue is the inability to bring a proficiency bonus to bear. Another issue is the question of fun in PC building - I think that if you are spending all your PC boosts to buff your defence against Hold and Dominate, then it is not as satisfying as it might be. And pulling back to a bigger context: in all the years of debate around AD&D, and saving throws, and hit points, and whether low-level MUs are too weak and/or high level ones too strong, I never saw the criticism that high level fighter saves are too good. This "narrative space" for low fighter saves is, as best I can see, purely an artefact of 3E. That's not to deny that there might now be a demand for it - but I think that demand has been created by experience with a particular system. It was not inherent to fantasy RPGers as such, I don't think. [/QUOTE]

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