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<blockquote data-quote="The Hitcher" data-source="post: 6329042" data-attributes="member: 63747">No, I don't read a lot of fantasy these days, so I can't think of specific examples. I also don't particularly care. It certainly fits the particular situations D&amp;D produces, and feels like something that resonates on an archetypal level (via thousands of movies, at least).I agree that the possibilities you suggest would be cool if they were possible. But D&amp;D has never been a game that supports that kind of subtlety of interaction. There are games that do, of course, if that was what one was looking for. As someone suggested up-thread, D&amp;D ultimately only feels like D&amp;D, and this particular aspect doesn't feel like D&amp;D to some people. I see it as an improvement, myself, but until there's enough information from the field, there won't be any settling the matter. The &quot;argument&quot; will be won by the last person standing after the rest get bored and give up posting in this thread.Well, this entire discussion is tedious and detached from reality, so...Haven't you already said that you're not interested in playing this edition? I'm curious as to why you persist in devoting so much of your time to trying to pull its wings off.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Hitcher, post: 6329042, member: 63747"] No, I don't read a lot of fantasy these days, so I can't think of specific examples. I also don't particularly care. It certainly fits the particular situations D&D produces, and feels like something that resonates on an archetypal level (via thousands of movies, at least). I agree that the possibilities you suggest would be cool if they were possible. But D&D has never been a game that supports that kind of subtlety of interaction. There are games that do, of course, if that was what one was looking for. As someone suggested up-thread, D&D ultimately only feels like D&D, and this particular aspect doesn't feel like D&D to some people. I see it as an improvement, myself, but until there's enough information from the field, there won't be any settling the matter. The "argument" will be won by the last person standing after the rest get bored and give up posting in this thread. Well, this entire discussion is tedious and detached from reality, so... Haven't you already said that you're not interested in playing this edition? I'm curious as to why you persist in devoting so much of your time to trying to pull its wings off. [/QUOTE]

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