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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 4673098" data-attributes="member: 1656">Yup.&nbsp; Though I can see exactly where people get confused:Only the dice you would normally roll to calculate damage are maximized. If another bonus (like from a weapon or feat) causes you to roll extra damage dice when scoring a critical hit, those dice are rolled as normal. There's an implicit 'only' in the second sentence: &quot;If another bonus causes you to roll extra damage only when scoring a critical hit&quot;.Let's take the example fissionessence used, the Inescapable Force feat.&nbsp; I attack an incorporeal creature with a force power; the feat causes me to roll extra damage dice (a d10).&nbsp; So the feat causes me to roll extra damage dice (a d10) when scoring a hit.&nbsp; So give that a critical hit is a hit, the feat causes me to roll extra damage dice (a d10) when scoring a critical hit.But the feat does not cause me to roll extra damage dice only when scoring a critical hit.So we are required to make two assumptions to correctly parse the FAQ answer:1. An extra d10 that only applies when using a Force power against an incorporeal opponent counts as &quot;dice you would normally roll&quot;, even if that specific scenario is an abnormal one.&nbsp; 'normally' refers to 'dice that would apply on a non-critical hit in the exact scenario that currently exists, however abnormal', not 'dice that would apply in a normal scenario'.2. Understand that since point 1 means that all bonuses that apply on a non-critical hit are already covered by the first sentence, the second sentence only covers bonuses that do not apply on a non-critical hit, and thus only apply on a critical hit.As soon as one reads 'normally' to exclude scenario-specific bonuses, like striker damage, those naturally fall under the second sentence, since they do apply when scoring a critical hit; point 1 is thus crucial to correctly parsing the answer.-Hyp.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 4673098, member: 1656"] Yup. Though I can see exactly where people get confused: [i]Only the dice you would normally roll to calculate damage are maximized. If another bonus (like from a weapon or feat) causes you to roll extra damage dice when scoring a critical hit, those dice are rolled as normal. [/i] There's an implicit 'only' in the second sentence: "If another bonus causes you to roll extra damage [i]only[/i] when scoring a critical hit". Let's take the example fissionessence used, the Inescapable Force feat. I attack an incorporeal creature with a force power; the feat causes me to roll extra damage dice (a d10). So the feat causes me to roll extra damage dice (a d10) when scoring a hit. So give that a critical hit is a hit, the feat causes me to roll extra damage dice (a d10) when scoring a critical hit. But the feat does not cause me to roll extra damage dice [i]only[/i] when scoring a critical hit. So we are required to make two assumptions to correctly parse the FAQ answer: 1. An extra d10 that only applies when using a Force power against an incorporeal opponent counts as "dice you would normally roll", even if that specific scenario is an abnormal one. 'normally' refers to 'dice that would apply on a non-critical hit in the exact scenario that currently exists, however abnormal', not 'dice that would apply in a normal scenario'. 2. Understand that since point 1 means that all bonuses that apply on a non-critical hit are already covered by the first sentence, the second sentence only covers bonuses that do not apply on a non-critical hit, and thus [i]only[/i] apply on a critical hit. As soon as one reads 'normally' to exclude scenario-specific bonuses, like striker damage, those naturally fall under the second sentence, since they [i]do[/i] apply when scoring a critical hit; point 1 is thus crucial to correctly parsing the answer. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]

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