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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 2177552" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>The 3.5 Core Rules don't really cater for it - the Goliath with the Large longspear gets 10' exclusive reach, but the ogre with the Medium longspear isn't covered in the rules. (When discussing Large creatures, it specifies what happens when he uses a reach weapon <em>of appropriate size</em>.)</p><p></p><p>Savage Species had rules for this. They were almost good rules... they only need a slight tweak and then an update to 3.5 to be good rules.</p><p></p><p>Once that's done, what you end up with:</p><p>A reach weapon 'shifts' the base creature's natural reach outward by a certain amount; that amount is equal to the natural reach of a creature of the same size category as the weapon.</p><p></p><p>So a Medium creature normally threatens a depth of one square; a Medium reach weapon shifts his threatened area outward by one square, so he threatens a five foot wide ring - the squares 10 feet away from him.</p><p></p><p>An ogre normally threatens a depth of two squares. A Large reach weapon shifts his threatened area outward by two squares, so he threatens a ten foot wide ring - the squares 15 and 20 feet away from him. If he uses a Medium reach weapon instead, his reach is only shifted outward by one square, and he threatens the squares 10 and 15 feet away.</p><p></p><p>A Goliath with a Large longspear has his one-square-deep reach shifted out by ten feet, so he threatens the squares 15 feet away only.</p><p></p><p>As an exception to the pattern, a Tiny creature with a Tiny (or Small) reach weapon threatens at 5', but does not threaten his own square. A Small or larger creature treats a Tiny reach weapon as though it were not a reach weapon.</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 2177552, member: 1656"] The 3.5 Core Rules don't really cater for it - the Goliath with the Large longspear gets 10' exclusive reach, but the ogre with the Medium longspear isn't covered in the rules. (When discussing Large creatures, it specifies what happens when he uses a reach weapon [i]of appropriate size[/i].) Savage Species had rules for this. They were almost good rules... they only need a slight tweak and then an update to 3.5 to be good rules. Once that's done, what you end up with: A reach weapon 'shifts' the base creature's natural reach outward by a certain amount; that amount is equal to the natural reach of a creature of the same size category as the weapon. So a Medium creature normally threatens a depth of one square; a Medium reach weapon shifts his threatened area outward by one square, so he threatens a five foot wide ring - the squares 10 feet away from him. An ogre normally threatens a depth of two squares. A Large reach weapon shifts his threatened area outward by two squares, so he threatens a ten foot wide ring - the squares 15 and 20 feet away from him. If he uses a Medium reach weapon instead, his reach is only shifted outward by one square, and he threatens the squares 10 and 15 feet away. A Goliath with a Large longspear has his one-square-deep reach shifted out by ten feet, so he threatens the squares 15 feet away only. As an exception to the pattern, a Tiny creature with a Tiny (or Small) reach weapon threatens at 5', but does not threaten his own square. A Small or larger creature treats a Tiny reach weapon as though it were not a reach weapon. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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