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<blockquote data-quote="Water Bob" data-source="post: 5667045" data-attributes="member: 92305">The Speed Factor doesn't kick in until the character is allowed two or more attacks per round.&nbsp; This usually happens at 6th level.&nbsp;The standard SF, according to the rule is SF 5.&nbsp; This means, on your second attack, you subtract 5 from your class to-hit bonus.&nbsp;A 6th level Fighter's BAB is +6/+1, right?&nbsp; The rule is saying the second attack at +1 is coming after applying the -5 for Speed Factor.&nbsp;Thus, if the same fighter used a dagger, which is a Quick weapon, the SF would be 4.&nbsp; The 6th's level Fighter's BAB becomes +6/+2 with that weapon.&nbsp;If that fighter switches to a two-handed sword, which is a Slow weapon, his BAB becomes +6 (only 1 attack--he'd get two attacks at 7th level, and it woud be at +7/+1).&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Let's look at a 9th level fighter.&nbsp;+9/+5/+1 = 3 attacks with a Quick weapon, like a dagger.&nbsp;+9/+4 = 2 attacks with a Standard weapon, like a longsword.&nbsp; This is exactly like the rule used in the game.&nbsp;+9/+3 = 2 attacks with a Slow weapon, like a two-handed sword.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;You have to have a +1 to get an extra attack.&nbsp; +0 does not indicate an extra attack.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Remember, the rule is not used until the character gets a second attack.&nbsp; BAB must be at +5 or higher.&nbsp;Thus, a 5th level fighter would be BAB +5/+1 with a dagger.&nbsp; BAB +5 with a longsword (as he is with the official rule).&nbsp; BAB +5 a two-handed sword (as he is with the offcial rule).&nbsp;The SF penalty is never applied to the first attack--only the susequent attacks, if there are any.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Water Bob, post: 5667045, member: 92305"] The Speed Factor doesn't kick in until the character is allowed two or more attacks per round. This usually happens at 6th level. The standard SF, according to the rule is SF 5. This means, on your second attack, you subtract 5 from your class to-hit bonus. A 6th level Fighter's BAB is +6/+1, right? The rule is saying the second attack at +1 is coming after applying the -5 for Speed Factor. Thus, if the same fighter used a dagger, which is a Quick weapon, the SF would be 4. The 6th's level Fighter's BAB becomes +6/+2 with that weapon. If that fighter switches to a two-handed sword, which is a Slow weapon, his BAB becomes +6 (only 1 attack--he'd get two attacks at 7th level, and it woud be at +7/+1). Let's look at a 9th level fighter. +9/+5/+1 = 3 attacks with a Quick weapon, like a dagger. +9/+4 = 2 attacks with a Standard weapon, like a longsword. This is exactly like the rule used in the game. +9/+3 = 2 attacks with a Slow weapon, like a two-handed sword. You have to have a +1 to get an extra attack. +0 does not indicate an extra attack. Remember, the rule is not used until the character gets a second attack. BAB must be at +5 or higher. Thus, a 5th level fighter would be BAB +5/+1 with a dagger. BAB +5 with a longsword (as he is with the official rule). BAB +5 a two-handed sword (as he is with the offcial rule). The SF penalty is never applied to the first attack--only the susequent attacks, if there are any. [/QUOTE]

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