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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arkhandus" data-source="post: 3776932" data-attributes="member: 13966">You say that now, but you wouldn't be saying it if you saw any of the high AC builds people use!Like the swordsage/warblade Zief that I threw at my group last week, whom the party's own swordsage could hardly hit (and Zief wasn't even using Combat Expertise, fighting defensively, a Defending weapon....etc., because he wanted to be able to hit the other guy rather than just be unhittable himself).Or the Kensei mecha design I have for D20 Future, and its pilot, who's Defense (which is D20 Modern's term for AC) is in the 50s normally, before he even tries to do anything defensive.  He's unhittable in melee except on a natural 20, too, because the pilot's Unbalance Opponent feat means that one foe is denied their Str bonus on attack rolls against him.  And all I was meaning to build was an opponent that was just a good challenge for the PC cyborg death-machine with his modified, upgraded Boulder mecha!  Only I built it too well....</blockquote>