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<blockquote data-quote="cdrcjsn" data-source="post: 4816159" data-attributes="member: 60486"><p>The FAQ allows feats like Eladrin Soldier and Weapon Focus:Longsword to be used with weapons when they are used as in implement.</p><p></p><p>So if you have the Nimble Blade feat, a dagger implement and are attacking with combat advantage, then yes, you get a +1 bonus to hit.</p><p></p><p>You definitely get the enhancement bonus, crit bonus damage and properties of weapons when used as in implement (explicitly stated in the FAQ).</p><p></p><p>It's debatable whether you can use the other powers of a magic weapon (like the flame weapon ability to turn attacks into fire). It makes sense that should be able to according to how the wording in the various rulebooks are stated (both PHB and PHB2), but I've still encountered table variation on this.</p><p></p><p>Likewise, it currently looks like class abilities that require a specific weapon can also be used when using a weapon as an implement (rogue sneak attack, daggermaster crit bonus, etc).</p><p></p><p>Most people don't seem to be aware of it, but the above rules also apply to wizards using staff implements (i.e. they can wield a +2 Frost staff if they want to, both as a weapon and as an implement).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cdrcjsn, post: 4816159, member: 60486"] The FAQ allows feats like Eladrin Soldier and Weapon Focus:Longsword to be used with weapons when they are used as in implement. So if you have the Nimble Blade feat, a dagger implement and are attacking with combat advantage, then yes, you get a +1 bonus to hit. You definitely get the enhancement bonus, crit bonus damage and properties of weapons when used as in implement (explicitly stated in the FAQ). It's debatable whether you can use the other powers of a magic weapon (like the flame weapon ability to turn attacks into fire). It makes sense that should be able to according to how the wording in the various rulebooks are stated (both PHB and PHB2), but I've still encountered table variation on this. Likewise, it currently looks like class abilities that require a specific weapon can also be used when using a weapon as an implement (rogue sneak attack, daggermaster crit bonus, etc). Most people don't seem to be aware of it, but the above rules also apply to wizards using staff implements (i.e. they can wield a +2 Frost staff if they want to, both as a weapon and as an implement). [/QUOTE]
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