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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 2304241" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>Hi all! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I am really looking forward to this book. Like most people here I find the descriptions fantastic and the ideas very interesting, although I too, am curious as to the rationale behind some of those Personal Costs.</p><p></p><p>At 20th-level the swords value is roughly 200,000 GP (or slightly over it).</p><p></p><p>However, seemingly you have to pay 55,200 GP to unlock all its powers. Also you seem to accrue penalties equal to 12 feats (or 8 feats depending on how you rate skill bonuses).</p><p></p><p>...now heres the science part, bear with me:</p><p></p><p>200,000 GP is 15th-level PC wealth. Converting that to feats (using my CR/EL system) gives us 15 feats.</p><p></p><p>Applying the 55,200 GP costs gives us essentially 14th-level PC wealth = 14 feats. If you then gain feat penalties equivalent to 8 feats (being generous and using how I rate skill bonuses) then you are left with:</p><p></p><p>15 feats -1 (GP costs), -8 (negative penalties) = +6 feats.</p><p></p><p>So the sword is probably only 2/5ths as powerful as its powers suggest, due to its penalties.</p><p></p><p>So although it might seem like you are gaining a powerful weapon, the net effect is actually pretty weak.</p><p></p><p>Also I don't understand the rationale behind giving a weapon an Attack Penalty, I mean isn't that counter productive?</p><p></p><p>I would suggest, on the evidence of this one example that you could easily abandon all the Personal Costs (with the exception of the ritual gp costs which make sense). </p><p></p><p>Nevertheless, I will still definately be buying the book, the personal costs are not intrusive and seem very easy to ignore.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 2304241, member: 326"] Hi all! :) I am really looking forward to this book. Like most people here I find the descriptions fantastic and the ideas very interesting, although I too, am curious as to the rationale behind some of those Personal Costs. At 20th-level the swords value is roughly 200,000 GP (or slightly over it). However, seemingly you have to pay 55,200 GP to unlock all its powers. Also you seem to accrue penalties equal to 12 feats (or 8 feats depending on how you rate skill bonuses). ...now heres the science part, bear with me: 200,000 GP is 15th-level PC wealth. Converting that to feats (using my CR/EL system) gives us 15 feats. Applying the 55,200 GP costs gives us essentially 14th-level PC wealth = 14 feats. If you then gain feat penalties equivalent to 8 feats (being generous and using how I rate skill bonuses) then you are left with: 15 feats -1 (GP costs), -8 (negative penalties) = +6 feats. So the sword is probably only 2/5ths as powerful as its powers suggest, due to its penalties. So although it might seem like you are gaining a powerful weapon, the net effect is actually pretty weak. Also I don't understand the rationale behind giving a weapon an Attack Penalty, I mean isn't that counter productive? I would suggest, on the evidence of this one example that you could easily abandon all the Personal Costs (with the exception of the ritual gp costs which make sense). Nevertheless, I will still definately be buying the book, the personal costs are not intrusive and seem very easy to ignore. [/QUOTE]
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