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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 9765801" data-attributes="member: 23751">By the rules it only happens if you full on retreat.&nbsp; Retreat is defined as away from melee, so towards melee with others is not a retreat under that rule. The same applies to Withdraw, which also requires a retreat away the combat. So advancing on the wizard does not allow the PC in melee to follow for free.To get the free attack, the NPC/Monster must be retreating away from the entire combat.&nbsp; If no retreat is happening, not attack can happen.Your spell range was 1-3.&nbsp; My weapon range was 2-5.&nbsp; Toss the random d10 and even +1 vs. +5 will still lose initiative a good chunk of the time, and wizards soft, squishy, and prime targets for attacks.&nbsp; Nothing there is &quot;is so much higher than a spell that it's not even funny.&quot;In 2e you had to declare your intentions for the round before initiative was rolled.&nbsp; You declared what you wanted to do for the following round. So the DM having his caster &quot;declare&quot;(in quotes since it wasn't out loud) magic missile is also preparation for the next round. So yes, &quot;prepare&quot;(in quotes, because prepare/declare/state intentions/decide/etc are all the same here) was a rule in 2e D&amp;D.Also, I don't understand your comment on holding a spell.&nbsp; If you won initiative and damaged the magic user before his turn came up, he lost his spell.&nbsp; There was never a time you would need to hold the magic missile.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 9765801, member: 23751"] By the rules it only happens if you full on retreat. Retreat is defined as away from melee, so towards melee with others is not a retreat under that rule. The same applies to Withdraw, which also requires a retreat away the combat. So advancing on the wizard does not allow the PC in melee to follow for free. To get the free attack, the NPC/Monster must be retreating away from the entire combat. If no retreat is happening, not attack can happen. Your spell range was 1-3. My weapon range was 2-5. Toss the random d10 and even +1 vs. +5 will still lose initiative a good chunk of the time, and wizards soft, squishy, and prime targets for attacks. Nothing there is "is so much higher than a spell that it's not even funny." In 2e you had to declare your intentions for the round before initiative was rolled. You declared what you wanted to do for the following round. So the DM having his caster "declare"(in quotes since it wasn't out loud) magic missile is also preparation for the next round. So yes, "prepare"(in quotes, because prepare/declare/state intentions/decide/etc are all the same here) was a rule in 2e D&D. Also, I don't understand your comment on holding a spell. If you won initiative and damaged the magic user before his turn came up, he lost his spell. There was never a time you would need to hold the magic missile. [/QUOTE]

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