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<blockquote data-quote="JoeCrow" data-source="post: 5997194" data-attributes="member: 1302"><p>Finesse and Heavy should be weapon properties, not weapon types. Divide weapons into Simple (stuff anybody with functioning hands can use, clubs, scythes, daggers, maces, spears, crossbows, and whatnot) and Martial (Stuff you've gotta have military training to use, swords, axes, bows, pikes and whatnot), and then list finesse or heavy under properties. </p><p></p><p>Otherwise you end up with halflings wielding greatclubs. </p><p></p><p>In other news, my pet D&D weapon peeve of all time remains in the new system: MASSIVE SPEAR MISUNDERSTANDING. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/rant.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rant:" title="Rant :rant:" data-shortname=":rant:" /> The only folks who used spears with two hands were martial artist showoffs and folks too poor to buy shields. Any spear longer than 8 feet is a pike, a polearm used in formation, never one-to-one (because if you're not in a line of pikemen behind a line of shieldmen, some quick-footed jerk is gonna dodge around your 15 ft long pike and gut you with a butcher knife). The spear is the most universal weapon of war humans have created. It's lethal, simple to use, simple to make, simple to care for, and in combination with a shield ruled the battlefield for millenia. </p><p></p><p>Your basic spear should do 1d8, one handed. Anything smaller than that is a javelin doing 1d6, anything larger than that is a pike, doing 1d12 AT RANGE ONLY. Ain't nobody in the world going hand-to-hand with a pike. If you've got a pike and the other dude's got a club and you haven't stabbed him when he's more than 10 feet away, you drop your pike and you run, or you die. </p><p></p><p>(huff huff huff)</p><p></p><p>Ok, I'm cool, I'm cool. Just hadda get that outta my system. </p><p></p><p>So, yeah, I'm working on a revision of the weapon table, much like the one I posted in that armor thread that just dropped off the front page. I'll post it here when I'm done for y'all to tear into.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JoeCrow, post: 5997194, member: 1302"] Finesse and Heavy should be weapon properties, not weapon types. Divide weapons into Simple (stuff anybody with functioning hands can use, clubs, scythes, daggers, maces, spears, crossbows, and whatnot) and Martial (Stuff you've gotta have military training to use, swords, axes, bows, pikes and whatnot), and then list finesse or heavy under properties. Otherwise you end up with halflings wielding greatclubs. In other news, my pet D&D weapon peeve of all time remains in the new system: MASSIVE SPEAR MISUNDERSTANDING. :rant: The only folks who used spears with two hands were martial artist showoffs and folks too poor to buy shields. Any spear longer than 8 feet is a pike, a polearm used in formation, never one-to-one (because if you're not in a line of pikemen behind a line of shieldmen, some quick-footed jerk is gonna dodge around your 15 ft long pike and gut you with a butcher knife). The spear is the most universal weapon of war humans have created. It's lethal, simple to use, simple to make, simple to care for, and in combination with a shield ruled the battlefield for millenia. Your basic spear should do 1d8, one handed. Anything smaller than that is a javelin doing 1d6, anything larger than that is a pike, doing 1d12 AT RANGE ONLY. Ain't nobody in the world going hand-to-hand with a pike. If you've got a pike and the other dude's got a club and you haven't stabbed him when he's more than 10 feet away, you drop your pike and you run, or you die. (huff huff huff) Ok, I'm cool, I'm cool. Just hadda get that outta my system. So, yeah, I'm working on a revision of the weapon table, much like the one I posted in that armor thread that just dropped off the front page. I'll post it here when I'm done for y'all to tear into. [/QUOTE]
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