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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Magus Coeruleus" data-source="post: 3205043" data-attributes="member: 1704">I have to disagree to an extent here.  Spreads go around cover because there is a space to go around that doesn't have total cover.  In other words, Fireball can only spread around a wall if there's a space for it to do so.  If you go with KD's interpretation, then all of those Web squares 20'+ away provide total cover, so there's no way for the FB to spread around--it's as if there's a wall.  Mind you, I disagree with his interpretation of the exact circumstances under which there is cover (I think he's treating it too much like a wall per se), but he's being consistent.That said, I still have to disagree with his interpretation.  I was thinking more and wondering other scenarios, for instance, would Web provide cover against a fog or cloud type spell?  I don't think so, but why not?  I think it's because it seems that the cover should NOT work against things that can easily flow around and between strands of web.  But that intuition is not a rule, so I looked at Web again more closely just now, and noticed this highly relevant passage, i.e the one about cover:Emphasis mine.  Aha!  Web does NOT necessarily provide universal cover.  It provides cover against OPPONENTS.  Now clearly it will provide cover against things other than just opponents (e.g. debris randomly picked up by wind), but the rule only guarantees cover against opponents.  Now KD and anyone else can interpret that as meaning any and all attacks or effects caused by an opponent, and the rules don't contradict that, but I think the intent is for some judgement to be applied.  For instance, does 20' of web provide cover against magical darkness, a Cloudkill, a turn effect?  I think not.  I think some common sense should be applied as to what should be affected, but it's anyone's guess what's sensible.Oh, and KD, if you're saying like I think you are that a flaming sword can slash through Web but a flaming mace can't, I can respect that view but clearly we have very different ideas of the strengths and weaknesses of Web and I think I'm going to leave it at that.  It certainly would have been helpful, if it was the intent, that they say the Web be vulnerable to weapons only if they do slashing and fire damage.</blockquote>

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