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<blockquote data-quote="Magus Coeruleus" data-source="post: 3206304" data-attributes="member: 1704"><p>I was about to agree with KD on the cover/spread issue but I reread the rules and Infiniti2000 is in the right here. From the SRD: "Cover grants you a +2 bonus on Reflex saves against attacks that originate or burst out from a point on the other side of the cover from you. Note that spread effects can extend around corners and thus negate this cover bonus." It is precisely that difference from a burst, i.e. that it spreads around, that negates cover versus a spread where it would apply to a burst.</p><p></p><p>Regarding what sorts of things by opponents suffer from cover, I think that's the wide open question. A simple solution is to say simply everything, but for many there are just certain effects that don't seem like they should be blocked. I strongly feel that a poisonous gas should not be blocked by the cover provided by a Web, for instance. But how far one is willing to go is personal. I can respect the position that (assuming it isn't burned away quickly enough) a Web's sticky strands provide enough insulation to provide some cover against a Fireball, even if I wouldn't necessarily rule it that way myself. Letting 20' totally block fire is something I just could go for, but again that's a choice of how to interpret cover provided from opponents.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Magus Coeruleus, post: 3206304, member: 1704"] I was about to agree with KD on the cover/spread issue but I reread the rules and Infiniti2000 is in the right here. From the SRD: "Cover grants you a +2 bonus on Reflex saves against attacks that originate or burst out from a point on the other side of the cover from you. Note that spread effects can extend around corners and thus negate this cover bonus." It is precisely that difference from a burst, i.e. that it spreads around, that negates cover versus a spread where it would apply to a burst. Regarding what sorts of things by opponents suffer from cover, I think that's the wide open question. A simple solution is to say simply everything, but for many there are just certain effects that don't seem like they should be blocked. I strongly feel that a poisonous gas should not be blocked by the cover provided by a Web, for instance. But how far one is willing to go is personal. I can respect the position that (assuming it isn't burned away quickly enough) a Web's sticky strands provide enough insulation to provide some cover against a Fireball, even if I wouldn't necessarily rule it that way myself. Letting 20' totally block fire is something I just could go for, but again that's a choice of how to interpret cover provided from opponents. [/QUOTE]
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