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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jack99" data-source="post: 3889003" data-attributes="member: 53135">I tried to search for it, but can't find it. If anyone has a link or maybe a good idea on keywords to search for (tried shadow and children to no avail) then I am all ears, 'cause it sounds great.EDIT: Found it, it was in the thread linked by RechanGreat. Had completely forgotten about those, don't know why I didn't start with HoH - I must be getting senile.Yeah I subscribe, unfortunately it takes forever for Paizo's stuff to reach my country, so nr2 isn't yet here  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /> Honestly, short of pulling out a live goat and sacrificing it on the gaming table, I don't think there is such a thing as too far. The awesome suggestions you have come up with a certainly not near what my players and myself can handle. What I mean is that it might spook them, but if you have ideas that push it further, it won't be a problem.To the rest of you, thanks for some awesome suggestions, and thanks for the link Rechan, it has a lot of great ideas in it as well</blockquote>